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private joker wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:52 pm No relegation again from senior A

Is that definitely the case or do KK have a choice whether they go up to Senior A or stay senior B?

Was there not a rule change? Be wrong in my opinion if they didn't come up last year and decided to come up this year. Shouldn't be left to a club like that to decide the fate of others depending on the mood of a club that particular year. Either you always get promoted or you always never get promoted.

Can't figure out how years ago when this happened you need to name additional senior players and now you don't.?

Because they changed the regrading rule around 2018 or 2019. I don't know why, but it suited someone.

Time was (pre 2019ish) if you won a grade (say Intermediate) and you already had a team in the next grade up (Senior), then everyone who took the field in the Intermediate final was graded Senior for the following year. Ballinamere winning Junior around 2010ish is a case in point.

The change in the rule that took place means you now list 18 (or maybe 19) players who can only play in top grade, then list a further 15 who can play in the next grade, and so on. It actually hampers small rural clubs who might use 16 or 17 over the course of the first two rounds (or until their Juniors exit the championship) for whom a list of 18 or 19 is hugely excessive. But shur who cares about the small rural clubs once the townies are happy?

greenairfield wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:11 pm Can't figure out how years ago when this happened you need to name additional senior players and now you don't.?

Some counties would do similar but only need to name 15. Allows everyone in early rounds to play and once they play senior, then they become ineligible for lower grade.

LGFA afaik and rugby interestingly have differing rules in this area that are interesting. In some counties, if someone does not start but does play at higher level, then they can still play lower grade. Need to really think these rules out to facilitate smaller clubs as much as possible I'd feel, particularly with rural depopulation being huge issue in many clubs

jimbob17 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:26 am Some counties would do similar but only need to name 15. Allows everyone in early rounds to play and once they play senior, then they become ineligible for lower grade.

LGFA afaik and rugby interestingly have differing rules in this area that are interesting. In some counties, if someone does not start but does play at higher level, then they can still play lower grade. Need to really think these rules out to facilitate smaller clubs as much as possible I'd feel, particularly with rural depopulation being huge issue in many clubs

They have a rule like that in Waterford.
A player can play one game at the higher level without losing his right to hurl at a lower level.
Was introduced to help small clubs - I think they got a bit of a land when Ballygunner showed up for the first round of the premier intermediate championship this year with 5 or 6 lads who had hurled for their senior juggernaut the night before.