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Lone Shark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:12 pm Completely agree on Trump. He's an abhorrent human and a stats/oddsmaking type whatsapp group I'm in came to the conclusion that the chance of humanity not surviving past 2028 is probably around a 16/1 or 20/1 shot - i.e. not likely, but not at all impossible either. That said, he was very clear about who and what he was, and people voted for that. Whether they'll ever get to vote again is another story, but for the next four years, he's the democratically elected president.

When I say the system went against Corbyn and Sanders, I mean it in different ways. In Corbyn's case, the Murdoch-led media drove a campaign painting him as an anti-semite and a Marxist, of which he is neither. Absolutely, his position on Brexit was weak and lacked credibility, but considering he ran against Boris Johnson, that shouldn't have been a difference-maker. But the UK electorate are not well-read and thoughtful on such things, so when the Mail/Sun/Times/Sky all decide that you're a modern day Enver Hoxha while Boris is allowed to go on with his "Cheeky Chappie" skit, then it's not exactly a fair fight.

And when it comes to Sanders, I'm not talking about the run against Biden in 2020. I'm referring to the assorted shenanigans that went on to ensure that Hilary Clinton won that nomination process, ranging from the Superdelegates system to other trickery in Nevada etc.. Absolutely, the general public wanted Biden instead of him four years later, even though the same institutional corporate/AIPAC money was a factor as well.


Is Mary Lou a blueshirt in disguise, a la Hilary and Kamala? No idea, we'll have to see if she gets into government before we'll find that out. And absolutely, the issue of left wing parties losing their base in a bid to capture the much-coveted "centre ground" is a universal one.

Lone Shark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:36 am
Just FYI, before I clicked "submit" on this post, I looked up her website, to see if I was doing her a dis-service.

I absolutely am not. She claims to represent the "silent majority", but gives no indication as to who those people are. Am I in it? Am I not? I dunno.

frankthetank wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:08 pm We clearly have a lot of posters here who’s only news consumption is from the the FF/FG supporting mainstream media.

Maybe turn off RTE and utilise your own analytical skills.

Just as a bitesize example:
RTE held a leaders debate this week. Israel/Palestine discussed as a pressing matter for the incoming Irish government.

Not a dickiebird about immigration into Ireland.

SearingDrive wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 7:40 pm Bord Na Mona man is correct. Carol Nolan’s voters are concerned with the day to day issues that affect them, and that is why she wins a seat, and will retain it next week. In this week’s Offaly Independent there are interviews with all 11 candidates, not just Carol Nolan as highlighted by a poster today.

The PBP candidate did not answer when asked, what were her ties to Offaly, but said the party was fielding candidates in all Dail constituencies. Why not pick a person with ties to the county? Hard to see them doing well outside Dublin, and possibly Cork next Friday.

Bord na Mona man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:49 pm

Lone Shark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:36 am
Just FYI, before I clicked "submit" on this post, I looked up her website, to see if I was doing her a dis-service.

I absolutely am not. She claims to represent the "silent majority", but gives no indication as to who those people are. Am I in it? Am I not? I dunno.

Carol's silent majority refers to people who don't post on the INTERNET!

Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:14 pm

Bord na Mona man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:49 pm

Lone Shark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:36 am
Just FYI, before I clicked "submit" on this post, I looked up her website, to see if I was doing her a dis-service.

I absolutely am not. She claims to represent the "silent majority", but gives no indication as to who those people are. Am I in it? Am I not? I dunno.

Carol's silent majority refers to people who don't post on the INTERNET!

The silent majority - The majority of people, regarded as holding moderate opinions but rarely expressing them.

I’m not sure I’d term a candidate who’s received 8% and 11% of FPV’s as being in the “silent majority”

Again, she was on the wrong side of the “silent majority” in 2018 when she voted against a woman’s right to choose.

frankthetank wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:30 pm

Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:14 pm

Bord na Mona man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:49 pm

Carol's silent majority refers to people who don't post on the INTERNET!

The silent majority - The majority of people, regarded as holding moderate opinions but rarely expressing them.

I’m not sure I’d term a candidate who’s received 8% and 11% of FPV’s as being in the “silent majority”

Again, she was on the wrong side of the “silent majority” in 2018 when she voted against a woman’s right to choose.

I’ll fix your shortcomings in semantics:
She voted against the legalising of abortion of babies
in Ireland.

Amazing for someone who is clearly pro abortion you don’t seem to like to use the term.

Hasselhoff wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:23 pm She protected the unborn who have no voice. I'll vote for her.

She didn't go along with the populist view and bow to the party line to further their own political career like a lot of others did.

Hasselhoff wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:23 pm She protected the unborn who have no voice. I'll vote for her.

She didn't go along with the populist view and bow to the party line to further their own political career like a lot of others did.

SearingDrive wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:13 am

Hasselhoff wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:23 pm She protected the unborn who have no voice. I'll vote for her.

She didn't go along with the populist view and bow to the party line to further their own political career like a lot of others did.

Very few people stand by their principles in politics, that is why Carol Nolan attracts those people who did not follow the so called, ‘ Liberal agenda’ in supporting abortion, which is the deliberate killing of unborn babies.
People voted because there were supposed to be strict guidelines, which were eased in the last few years, thanks to the PBP.

What strict guidelines have been eased?

There were a lot of politicians in the major parties, including the current government, who initially opposed abortion, but followed the populist line, wrestled with their conscience, and the conscience lost. People do not forget that. Anyone who supports a pro life line, will be ridiculed, derided in the media as dinosaurs, when they are expressing an opinion.

It’s a bit rich to be taking aim at politicians whose views have evolved over time on one hand but on the other hand praise Nolan whose views have evolved from supporting a party that espouses democratic socialism to now claiming to represent the Catholic conservative element of Irish society.

The silent majority usually wait for an election to express their views on politicians.
The rise in Independent candidates is because they represent the real people, not the trendy woke generation, or the cultural elite who have a solution for everything, and are opposed to ‘traditional values’.

The rise in support for independent candidates is largely due to the fact that the lead opposition party have provided very little opposition to the current government.

Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:36 am

SearingDrive wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:13 am

Hasselhoff wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:23 pm She protected the unborn who have no voice. I'll vote for her.

She didn't go along with the populist view and bow to the party line to further their own political career like a lot of others did.

Very few people stand by their principles in politics, that is why Carol Nolan attracts those people who did not follow the so called, ‘ Liberal agenda’ in supporting abortion, which is the deliberate killing of unborn babies.
People voted because there were supposed to be strict guidelines, which were eased in the last few years, thanks to the PBP.

What strict guidelines have been eased?

There were a lot of politicians in the major parties, including the current government, who initially opposed abortion, but followed the populist line, wrestled with their conscience, and the conscience lost. People do not forget that. Anyone who supports a pro life line, will be ridiculed, derided in the media as dinosaurs, when they are expressing an opinion.

It’s a bit rich to be taking aim at politicians whose views have evolved over time on one hand but on the other hand praise Nolan whose views have evolved from supporting a party that espouses democratic socialism to now claiming to represent the Catholic conservative element of Irish society.

The silent majority usually wait for an election to express their views on politicians.
The rise in Independent candidates is because they represent the real people, not the trendy woke generation, or the cultural elite who have a solution for everything, and are opposed to ‘traditional values’.

The rise in support for independent candidates is largely due to the fact that the lead opposition party have provided very little opposition to the current government.