Again, from gaa.ie/Offaly
05/06/2006
Brian Mullins (Birr)
Barry Teehan (Coolderry) Paul Cleary (Birr) David Franks (Carrick Shock)
Kevin Brady (Coolderry) Rory Hanniffy (Birr) Ger Oakley (Carrig & Riverstown)
Gary Hanniffy (Birr) Dylan Hayden (Birr)
Michael Cordial (Shinrone) Mick O'Hara (Ballyskenagh) Brendan Murphy (Ballyskenagh)
Brian Carroll (Coolderry) Joe Bergin (Seir Kieran) Aidan Hanrahan (Lusmagh)
Subs: 16 Shane O'Connor (Coolderry), 17 Declan Tanner (St Rynagh's), 18 Brendan O'Meara (Coolderry), 19 Alan Egan (Belmont), 20 Eddie Bevans (Shinrone), 21 Joe Brady (Coolderry), 22 Daniel Hoctor (Shinrone), 23 Paul Molloy (Birr), 24 Simon Whelahan (Birr), 25 Stephen Brown (Birr), 26 Peter Healion (Kilcormac/Killoughey), 27 James Rigney (Kinnitty), 28 Niall Claffey (Birr), 29 Brian Whelahan (Birr), 30 Damien Murray (Coolderry)
Hurling team v Wexford
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Hmm.
The Ger Oakley tour of jerseys continues, latest stop being at number seven. Is it just me, or is this a really strange place to put a guy who has plenty of power, is great for blocking etc., but wouldn't be the most crafty of players? Seems odd to me anyway.
Overall - I'm not convinced. Again I think O'Meara has been very hard done by in the backs, Teehan hasn't convinced me in the corner, and there's nothing surer but he'll be given a fair runaround by Furlong or Jacob or whichever busy little hobbit Wexford will field at 15.
Hayden at midfield could work, but he'll have to scrap a lot more than he's inclined to sometimes. He can hit scores from range all right, and he should feed well off Hanniffy, what with them playing beside each other for the club and all, but I'd be wary of the game - and a lot of ball - bypassing him. Certainly he's not a defensive player anyway.
Likewise Cordial at wing forward hasn't been lighting any fires this year - hopefully he'll remember the great display he had against these in 2003 before he had to go off and get back to that.
As regards the overall balance, I'd have real concerns. We have picked a team with four backs, two midfielders (playing at wing forward and wong back respectively) and eight forwards. I understand with Offaly cloth has to be cut to suit to a certain degree, but for a team that has yet to prove our mastery of defending from the forwards back, this could yet prove our undoing - hopefully not though.
The Ger Oakley tour of jerseys continues, latest stop being at number seven. Is it just me, or is this a really strange place to put a guy who has plenty of power, is great for blocking etc., but wouldn't be the most crafty of players? Seems odd to me anyway.
Overall - I'm not convinced. Again I think O'Meara has been very hard done by in the backs, Teehan hasn't convinced me in the corner, and there's nothing surer but he'll be given a fair runaround by Furlong or Jacob or whichever busy little hobbit Wexford will field at 15.
Hayden at midfield could work, but he'll have to scrap a lot more than he's inclined to sometimes. He can hit scores from range all right, and he should feed well off Hanniffy, what with them playing beside each other for the club and all, but I'd be wary of the game - and a lot of ball - bypassing him. Certainly he's not a defensive player anyway.
Likewise Cordial at wing forward hasn't been lighting any fires this year - hopefully he'll remember the great display he had against these in 2003 before he had to go off and get back to that.
As regards the overall balance, I'd have real concerns. We have picked a team with four backs, two midfielders (playing at wing forward and wong back respectively) and eight forwards. I understand with Offaly cloth has to be cut to suit to a certain degree, but for a team that has yet to prove our mastery of defending from the forwards back, this could yet prove our undoing - hopefully not though.
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Before naming the team, I thought we'll have an excellent chance of beating the wexicans, but i'm starting to have my doubts now! im not convinced with our defence. Ive never seen oakley anywhere apart from down the centre of the pitch, which i think he belongs.
I'd imagine Hayden and Cordial will probably switch if things do go well, two of them are fairly versatile. I reckon our strongest line the full forward line, and we have the subs to replace them too in Alan Egan and Murray.
Ive just moved down to wexford, typical that it happens now when we have to play them twice!!! but they're not feeling all that confident about it. sundays match is gonna be hard to call and a bit unpredictable!
I'd imagine Hayden and Cordial will probably switch if things do go well, two of them are fairly versatile. I reckon our strongest line the full forward line, and we have the subs to replace them too in Alan Egan and Murray.
Ive just moved down to wexford, typical that it happens now when we have to play them twice!!! but they're not feeling all that confident about it. sundays match is gonna be hard to call and a bit unpredictable!
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Looks lads let's be positive here.
We've a young competitive team with some strong lads and a bit of fight. Wexford had a bad league but we know are no mugs, can dig up some hardy lads and are always hard bet.
But i think we've a great oppurtunity to lash into them here. If the lads get stuck in and take their scores we'll be there or there abouts at the end
We've a young competitive team with some strong lads and a bit of fight. Wexford had a bad league but we know are no mugs, can dig up some hardy lads and are always hard bet.
But i think we've a great oppurtunity to lash into them here. If the lads get stuck in and take their scores we'll be there or there abouts at the end
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I'd be worried about us being "there or thereabouts". As far as I'm concerned, hurler for hurler we are better than Wexford. I'd pick our manager over theirs any day of the week, and I think them parachuting in the likes of Codd is a poor show.
However they have beaten us in all our recent meetings other than the league game this year - a game they are writing off as miserable conditions and a Travers mistake - and they'll have every confidence that they can take us in a tight finish. We have led a lot of games and fallen away - I think to beat Wexford we need to either sit in behind and track them and pull ahead at the end, as we did in Birr, or else burn them off completely in the first 35 - which we could do.
I'd be very worried if we tootled along at between 2-4 points in front the whole way - once the inevitable Wexford push comes we mightn't be mentally strong enough to deal with it.
However they have beaten us in all our recent meetings other than the league game this year - a game they are writing off as miserable conditions and a Travers mistake - and they'll have every confidence that they can take us in a tight finish. We have led a lot of games and fallen away - I think to beat Wexford we need to either sit in behind and track them and pull ahead at the end, as we did in Birr, or else burn them off completely in the first 35 - which we could do.
I'd be very worried if we tootled along at between 2-4 points in front the whole way - once the inevitable Wexford push comes we mightn't be mentally strong enough to deal with it.
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I think we should handle this. We are a better team than last year and since the KK hammering, we have made consistent progress. With the footballers on a roll and lifting optimism in the county, I am quietly confident the hurlers will extend our 100% record in the 2006 championship (senior and minor football and hurling)Lone Shark wrote:I'd be very worried if we tootled along at between 2-4 points in front the whole way - once the inevitable Wexford push comes we mightn't be mentally strong enough to deal with it.
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I think some people here are worried that Offaly may have talked ourselves up too much for this.
The press have been all over the "Offaly revival" story and maybe this is a bit premature.
I'd be very cautious about the game.
Maybe the heavy defeat to Cork has helped focus the players.
It's been a long time since we had a settled midfield. Worryingly our two wing forwards are not on their best form. I am wondering what Ger Oakley can bring to wing back. He can bat the ball, but I'm not sure what he'd be like as a catcher. If he's been beaten, then Damien Fitzhenry will be spraying puckouts down on top of him.
On that note, Fitzhenry is a great playmaker for Wexford. If any Offaly player is lazily walking back to his position after the ball goes dead, you can bet Fitzhenry will bullet a quick puckout to the unmarked Wexford player's paw. He can drive them long if he needs to.
Unfortunately Breeder doesn't have the same power. His puckouts that get beyond midfield will be lofted and fall with gravity, too slow for our half forward to escape the attentions of their markers.
I'd be worried about this one, but we should be capable of beating Wexford if the heads are right.
The press have been all over the "Offaly revival" story and maybe this is a bit premature.
I'd be very cautious about the game.
Maybe the heavy defeat to Cork has helped focus the players.
It's been a long time since we had a settled midfield. Worryingly our two wing forwards are not on their best form. I am wondering what Ger Oakley can bring to wing back. He can bat the ball, but I'm not sure what he'd be like as a catcher. If he's been beaten, then Damien Fitzhenry will be spraying puckouts down on top of him.
On that note, Fitzhenry is a great playmaker for Wexford. If any Offaly player is lazily walking back to his position after the ball goes dead, you can bet Fitzhenry will bullet a quick puckout to the unmarked Wexford player's paw. He can drive them long if he needs to.
Unfortunately Breeder doesn't have the same power. His puckouts that get beyond midfield will be lofted and fall with gravity, too slow for our half forward to escape the attentions of their markers.
I'd be worried about this one, but we should be capable of beating Wexford if the heads are right.
If we get by wexford(big if) we will have played at least one highly competitive championship game(sorry laois) where kk will only have beaten the crap out of westmeath. it could give us a chance of gettin a bit closer to them than previous meetings recently.
Our hurlers shold have the measure of wexford this year and a good win could bring them on leaps and bounds. But to be honest our aim for now should just be wexford'
and as for talking us up, good, we are a seriously proud DUAL county (ha ha kildare and westmeath) and we should feel confident
Our hurlers shold have the measure of wexford this year and a good win could bring them on leaps and bounds. But to be honest our aim for now should just be wexford'
and as for talking us up, good, we are a seriously proud DUAL county (ha ha kildare and westmeath) and we should feel confident
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Today’s Thursday. T-3 days to Offaly v Wexford, the match we’ve been looking forward to since the draw was made. Ironic, I think, that it should be slap bang in the middle of the leaving cert, especially given the vastly differing approaches of the two involved. Offaly have studied diligently throughout the academic year, did well in the mocks (league) albeit with room for improvement and approach the exams in confident mood. In contrast, Wexford are cramming. They’ve wintered poorly, flunked the mocks, and are on the eve of the exam furiously trying to make up for lost time. But beware: crammers can get, and have gotten, high honours in the exams too.
Offaly would do well to ignore the news of unrest coming from the Wexford camp, particularly that of player departures and unrest. We only have to recall 2 years ago, and similar tales of unrest and proposals of management upheavals by players during April and May of that year. These are well documented, especially in Christy O’Connor’s excellent “Last Man Standing” book on hurling goalkeepers, as outlined by Damien Fitzhenry. What happened? They only went and beat a Kilkenny side, severely damaging their chance of 3 All-Irelands in a row. The departed players were most unlikely to start anyway.
So, what of Sunday? Offaly have made one change, a baffling one at that. While Dylan Hayden’s inclusion comes as no surprise, Declan Tanner’s omission owes nothing to current form. Tanner hurled well against Laois, doing some fantastic hooking and blocking in the process. During the league, Hayden was the recipient of any low puck-out (I don’t describe puck-out delivered to the halfway mark as ‘short’) and was using it well. I feel Cordial will start in his familiar centre-field slot with Hayden starting at right half forward, making runs from the no. 10 slot to the halfway line betimes to be at the reveiving end the varied puck-out. What of the backline? I can’t envisage Oakley starting at 7. There are no other alternative defenders further up the field which would accommodate Oakley’s move up the field. Hence, I wonder would Oakley revert to full back, with Cleary moving to corner and Teehan moving to wing? Why? Are the management worried that Wexford would target a rookie full back by plonking the experienced Paul Codd in on top of him? Maybe so. This smacks of desperation, which is surprising in the extreme, given the winter’s thorough preparation that has taken place with Sunday 11th June foremost in all minds. It’s the only sense I can make of it, and one. I feel would be extremely disruptive. Teehan, in particular, was troubled by one of the Jacobs when introduced at wing back in the league clash, particularly in the air, and Jacob is no Paul O’Connell as regards aerial domination.
It’s interesting to see Joachim Kelly remark in the Tribune interview that Tanner and Brendan O’Meara are ‘unlucky’. Does this, by extension, label Barry Teehan and Dylan Hayden ‘lucky’ to be included? Offaly should still approach this game in a positive mindframe. The groundwork put in over the winter has been like nothing ever before put in by an Offaly hurling team, not least the winter programme on the equipment in UL. This should stand to the team, especially in the closing 10 minutes, and it looks like the day will be hot. It’s a considerable comfort that this work has been done, and I feel bears no comparison with the ‘flying by the seat of the pants’ years of Mike McNamara’s stewardship when twice May was reached with no groundwork done and 2 matches 13 months apart were thrown away to Wexford. The first touch and ballwork was particularly noticeable despite the Portlaoise floods and will have upped another notch in the 3 weeks since.
The teams have met twice this year so far with a 1 point win for Wexford in the Welsh Cup in February and Offaly winning by the same margin in the League just over a month later. Both were in Birr. Coincidentally, the winning point in both was scored from almost the same spot. This points to an encounter going the full twelve rounds on Sunday. Funnily how, despite many close encounters in the long history of the two, they have never drawn. Wexford have pipped Offaly in their last two championship encounters, both of which were lost due to Offaly falling down in the second half of both. To win on Sunday, Offaly will have to hurl for the full seventy. The spoils were shared in the two significant underage clashes between the two. Paul Molloy’s late goal pipped Wexford at under 21 level in 2000 with Offaly going on to win the Leinster title. They lost that crown to Wexford the following year when Darren Stamp pointed a late winner for the Slaneysiders, despite Offaly dominating between the 20th and 50th minute. Both those were in Sunday’s venue- Nowlan Park.
So, where can Wexford hurt Offaly? Firstly using the element of surprise. A dummy team? Lowering the blades? The first targets will likely be the rookie full back and full forward. This is why, I feel, Offaly may be trying to pre-empt this by moving Cleary away from Codd. The 19-year-old Joe Bergin will also be targeted for special Wexford attention. While Darragh Ryan would obviously be a huge loss to the south-easterners were he not to make it, David O’Connor has plenty of experience in the full back role as Ryan’s replacement. Michael Cordial looked like a man desperate to start a row against Laois. Darren Stamp, like many former clubmates of his, won’t be for backing down either. While I’ve no problem with a man declaring his authority in a sector, it’s important for him to keep his discipline. Gary Hanniffy also looked to be targeted and took some heavy punishment in the March league encounter. Offaly’s ball players will look for refereeing protection. Brian Carroll, who is deceptively good in the air with a marvellous technique of controlling the ball in the air and breaking it to himself to turn in onto his favoured left side, frequently seems to have his direct opponent resting on his shoulders. At the other end of the field, Paul Codd’s return gives Wexford another freetaking option. Any fouls from halfway in will be punished.
The incentive for Offaly to win is huge. They won’t want a hard winter’s work to go to waste. They owe Wexford big time given the last two senior clashes in particular. Only Franks, Oakley and Murphy have featured in Offaly senior wins over Wexford. If this were to go awry, it would give Wexford a huge edge for future clashes. More importantly, a win is a fast track to an automatic All Ireland quarterfinal slot. Because of the ‘seeding’ arrangement, the Offaly/Wexfords losers will be pitted in a group with either of 2 Munster teams or one Munster plus Galway. The presence of Westmeath in the draw, and not an Ulster team ensures this. In addition, the losing Leinster team could face a crunch clash 6 days after Nowlan Park with a possible trip to Waterford, Ennis or the Salthill promenade.
It’s almost a match Offaly can’t afford to lose. I’ll give them a vote to win in the last 5 minutes and book the final automatic All Ireland quarter final slot.
Offaly would do well to ignore the news of unrest coming from the Wexford camp, particularly that of player departures and unrest. We only have to recall 2 years ago, and similar tales of unrest and proposals of management upheavals by players during April and May of that year. These are well documented, especially in Christy O’Connor’s excellent “Last Man Standing” book on hurling goalkeepers, as outlined by Damien Fitzhenry. What happened? They only went and beat a Kilkenny side, severely damaging their chance of 3 All-Irelands in a row. The departed players were most unlikely to start anyway.
So, what of Sunday? Offaly have made one change, a baffling one at that. While Dylan Hayden’s inclusion comes as no surprise, Declan Tanner’s omission owes nothing to current form. Tanner hurled well against Laois, doing some fantastic hooking and blocking in the process. During the league, Hayden was the recipient of any low puck-out (I don’t describe puck-out delivered to the halfway mark as ‘short’) and was using it well. I feel Cordial will start in his familiar centre-field slot with Hayden starting at right half forward, making runs from the no. 10 slot to the halfway line betimes to be at the reveiving end the varied puck-out. What of the backline? I can’t envisage Oakley starting at 7. There are no other alternative defenders further up the field which would accommodate Oakley’s move up the field. Hence, I wonder would Oakley revert to full back, with Cleary moving to corner and Teehan moving to wing? Why? Are the management worried that Wexford would target a rookie full back by plonking the experienced Paul Codd in on top of him? Maybe so. This smacks of desperation, which is surprising in the extreme, given the winter’s thorough preparation that has taken place with Sunday 11th June foremost in all minds. It’s the only sense I can make of it, and one. I feel would be extremely disruptive. Teehan, in particular, was troubled by one of the Jacobs when introduced at wing back in the league clash, particularly in the air, and Jacob is no Paul O’Connell as regards aerial domination.
It’s interesting to see Joachim Kelly remark in the Tribune interview that Tanner and Brendan O’Meara are ‘unlucky’. Does this, by extension, label Barry Teehan and Dylan Hayden ‘lucky’ to be included? Offaly should still approach this game in a positive mindframe. The groundwork put in over the winter has been like nothing ever before put in by an Offaly hurling team, not least the winter programme on the equipment in UL. This should stand to the team, especially in the closing 10 minutes, and it looks like the day will be hot. It’s a considerable comfort that this work has been done, and I feel bears no comparison with the ‘flying by the seat of the pants’ years of Mike McNamara’s stewardship when twice May was reached with no groundwork done and 2 matches 13 months apart were thrown away to Wexford. The first touch and ballwork was particularly noticeable despite the Portlaoise floods and will have upped another notch in the 3 weeks since.
The teams have met twice this year so far with a 1 point win for Wexford in the Welsh Cup in February and Offaly winning by the same margin in the League just over a month later. Both were in Birr. Coincidentally, the winning point in both was scored from almost the same spot. This points to an encounter going the full twelve rounds on Sunday. Funnily how, despite many close encounters in the long history of the two, they have never drawn. Wexford have pipped Offaly in their last two championship encounters, both of which were lost due to Offaly falling down in the second half of both. To win on Sunday, Offaly will have to hurl for the full seventy. The spoils were shared in the two significant underage clashes between the two. Paul Molloy’s late goal pipped Wexford at under 21 level in 2000 with Offaly going on to win the Leinster title. They lost that crown to Wexford the following year when Darren Stamp pointed a late winner for the Slaneysiders, despite Offaly dominating between the 20th and 50th minute. Both those were in Sunday’s venue- Nowlan Park.
So, where can Wexford hurt Offaly? Firstly using the element of surprise. A dummy team? Lowering the blades? The first targets will likely be the rookie full back and full forward. This is why, I feel, Offaly may be trying to pre-empt this by moving Cleary away from Codd. The 19-year-old Joe Bergin will also be targeted for special Wexford attention. While Darragh Ryan would obviously be a huge loss to the south-easterners were he not to make it, David O’Connor has plenty of experience in the full back role as Ryan’s replacement. Michael Cordial looked like a man desperate to start a row against Laois. Darren Stamp, like many former clubmates of his, won’t be for backing down either. While I’ve no problem with a man declaring his authority in a sector, it’s important for him to keep his discipline. Gary Hanniffy also looked to be targeted and took some heavy punishment in the March league encounter. Offaly’s ball players will look for refereeing protection. Brian Carroll, who is deceptively good in the air with a marvellous technique of controlling the ball in the air and breaking it to himself to turn in onto his favoured left side, frequently seems to have his direct opponent resting on his shoulders. At the other end of the field, Paul Codd’s return gives Wexford another freetaking option. Any fouls from halfway in will be punished.
The incentive for Offaly to win is huge. They won’t want a hard winter’s work to go to waste. They owe Wexford big time given the last two senior clashes in particular. Only Franks, Oakley and Murphy have featured in Offaly senior wins over Wexford. If this were to go awry, it would give Wexford a huge edge for future clashes. More importantly, a win is a fast track to an automatic All Ireland quarterfinal slot. Because of the ‘seeding’ arrangement, the Offaly/Wexfords losers will be pitted in a group with either of 2 Munster teams or one Munster plus Galway. The presence of Westmeath in the draw, and not an Ulster team ensures this. In addition, the losing Leinster team could face a crunch clash 6 days after Nowlan Park with a possible trip to Waterford, Ennis or the Salthill promenade.
It’s almost a match Offaly can’t afford to lose. I’ll give them a vote to win in the last 5 minutes and book the final automatic All Ireland quarter final slot.
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Good analysis by POTH, though I'm not sure if moving Cleary to corner back would be good for us.
He'd be very exposed to Wexford's tricky midget corner forwards, who would be pacey and quick to turn.
Paul Odd might suit him better at full forward.
Cleary is much more of the traditional square minding full back. Codd can be difficult to mark, but hopefully he won't be too sharp because of the lay off. Coddd's cack handed grip can also make it tricky to hook or block him, as he generally strikes with a low flat trajectory rather than an arc swing.
He'd be very exposed to Wexford's tricky midget corner forwards, who would be pacey and quick to turn.
Paul Odd might suit him better at full forward.
Cleary is much more of the traditional square minding full back. Codd can be difficult to mark, but hopefully he won't be too sharp because of the lay off. Coddd's cack handed grip can also make it tricky to hook or block him, as he generally strikes with a low flat trajectory rather than an arc swing.
How do we match up against the Wexford team (http://www.unison.ie)
Wexford opt for two debutants
WEXFORD have named two championship debutants on their team to play Offaly in Sunday's Leinster senior hurling semi-final at Nowlan Park.
Faythe Harriers under 21 player Richie Kehoe will be making his full senior debut at wing-back.
The other newcomer is Oulart-The Ballagh's Stephen Doyle, a member of last year's All-Ireland winning intermediate team, who is selected at corner-forward.
Des Mythen is ruled out with a hamstring injury.
WEXFORD (SH v Offaly) - D Fitzhenry; M Travers, D O'Connor, K Rossiter (capt); R Kehoe, D Ruth, D Lyng; T Mahon, D Stamp; M Jacob, E Quigley, R McCarthy; S Doyle, M Jordan, R Jacob.
Wexford opt for two debutants
WEXFORD have named two championship debutants on their team to play Offaly in Sunday's Leinster senior hurling semi-final at Nowlan Park.
Faythe Harriers under 21 player Richie Kehoe will be making his full senior debut at wing-back.
The other newcomer is Oulart-The Ballagh's Stephen Doyle, a member of last year's All-Ireland winning intermediate team, who is selected at corner-forward.
Des Mythen is ruled out with a hamstring injury.
WEXFORD (SH v Offaly) - D Fitzhenry; M Travers, D O'Connor, K Rossiter (capt); R Kehoe, D Ruth, D Lyng; T Mahon, D Stamp; M Jacob, E Quigley, R McCarthy; S Doyle, M Jordan, R Jacob.
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I wonder if Ryan, Codd and Mythen will feature, if not then it looks a weak Wexford team.
Their backline has been keeping them afloat for a few years now, it still looks fairly good.
Up front they aren't impressive. Rory McCarty and Micahel Jordan are real journey men at this stage.
We should be ashamed if they go to town on us.
It's ours to win, but I'm very nervous about it now.
Their backline has been keeping them afloat for a few years now, it still looks fairly good.
Up front they aren't impressive. Rory McCarty and Micahel Jordan are real journey men at this stage.
We should be ashamed if they go to town on us.
It's ours to win, but I'm very nervous about it now.