Offaly Senior Hurlers 2025
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Great reporting faithfulfanatic.
A few years ago, the most prominent Offaly man in the Fitzgibbon Cup was Mick McDonagh. It's a good trend that we're better represented these days.
A few years ago, the most prominent Offaly man in the Fitzgibbon Cup was Mick McDonagh. It's a good trend that we're better represented these days.
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hard believe anyone would think screeney wouldnt make the ul team if he was fit? in my opinion he would easily make any county team in ireland including limerick.
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UL are generally stacked with established Inter county players, many of which are a few years older than Screeney. He'd do well to start for them. He also currently would not get near Limerick, Cork or Clare starting 15s. Imo there were more impressive players on last years u20 team. Brecon Kavangh, Colin Spain, James Mahon, Dan Bourke all at least equal in ability to Screeney. Alot of others not far off.biffinbanner wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:08 pm hard believe anyone would think screeney wouldnt make the ul team if he was fit? in my opinion he would easily make any county team in ireland including limerick.
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are these the same young players from tipp, clare,cork, that Adam Screeney has terrorised in minor under 20 the last 3 year's.jimbob17 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:42 amWouldnt think Screeney would make that UL team anyway. UL is always stacked with established inter county seniors from Liam McCarthy counties. The best young players from Limerick Clare Tipp and North Cork all generally go to UL. The softer ground of fitzgibbon hurling will also not help him where physicality is crucial. He will do well to make it next year.faithfulfanatic wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:34 am Made the trip to UL last night for UL versus SETU Waterford (WIT)
As mentioned previously, no Screeney for UL as he faces a while out with osteitis pubis. I hope he’s given the time to recover correctly and isn’t rushed back by any team or management.
UL started better with their star studded lineup including Mark Fitzgerald, Colin Coughlan, Adam English, Gearoid O’Connor, Aidan O’Connor and Jack Leahy. SETU brought it back and kept it at 4-5 points throughout before a late UL spree saw them win by 13 points.
Reuben O’Halloran from Waterford hurled well for SETU in their forwards but Cathal King was without a doubt the standout for me.
He followed Adam English around everywhere for the first 40 minutes and made a couple of breaks up the pitch himself. English then succumbed to a leg injury, at which point King was sent back to do a man marking job on Aidan O’Connor. Very impressed with his display.
No other Offaly lads in action in last nights other 2 games (UCC v UCD & Mary I v ATU Galway).
Should be a few in action tonight between TUS Midwest (LIT) (James Mahon, Coakley) v DCU (Shirley, Sam Bourke) & NUIG (Dan Bourke, Mitchell, Taaffe) v MTU Cork. Don’t think either is being streamed.
Offaly hurled Kerry last weekend in UL also and had a good enough win. Good few of the younger lads impressed and one or two newcomers. Eimhin Kelly sustained a bad injury and looks to be out for a while.
Kilkenny this Saturday in the faithful fields.
20s are hurling a challenge against Cork in Pairc Ui Chaoimh soon aswell.
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Screeney is good, very good in fact. But he is 19 years old, small in stature etc. His competition is Adam English, Cathal O Neill, and then throw in G O Connor Tipp, B O Sullivan (Cork) Colm O meara Clare who have u20 and senior all irelands won in last 2 years and that is leaving out plenty of others that also would have all irelands at minor senior or u20 level recently. Screeney is small and wiry and on a good day he is excellent. I simply made the point that Fitz conditions (bar an astroturf pitch) would not suit him as well and he has stiff competition for a place. He would do well to make that inside forward line. Id love to see him on it but for him as a 2nd year, it is a tough challenge for him. Dont know why people have to pile in with the 'oh so offending comments'. Its a very fair comment to make.
As for terrorising opposition, the standard of a good fitz hurler is senior inter county at Liam Mac level. Screeney hasnt shone at that level yet and until he does, and I hope he does, he will be a work in progress. UL players have all hurled county at minor and u20 and dont forget Cork, Tipp and Clare all won minor U20 or senior all irelands too in recent times. Limerick have won few seniors too and there is few of them there too! In UL thered be plenty of lads that hurled minor or U20 for hurling counties that wouldnt even make the Fitz panel. That is just a fact of their strength. Screeney didnt set world alight at Joe McDonagh level yet. You have to be realistic and fair on the lad to allow him grow without expectation.
Too often, Offaly supporters have put good young talent up on a pedestal way too soon, only for it to affect some lads to such a degree that they dont fulfil potential as seniors. Countless examples of it. Hope this wont happen with Screeney but give the lad a chance. Some here portray him to be the next Tony Kelly or Joe Canning. He is good at underage but there are levels to everything and as senior inter county hurler he is still unproven. Just because Offaly won an U20 and he was key cog wouldnt necessarily put him ahead of another lad who has done similar in other county. Weve had a few good years at underage lads and it has been a great ride after all the barren years, but Jesus, reign it in a bit. We love to see Offaly players doing well and Screeney has done brilliantly at underage but there is a step still to make to senior Liam Mac level. How well are the U20 football All Ireland 2021 champions doing at senior level - and that is Div 3? Perspective is everything here. We will struggle to stay in Leinster this year in senior hurling. Screeney is still U20 and younger than most of his competition for a starting spot. At least half that UL panel would make Offaly senior team so maybe just keep things in context a small bit and dont get so offended so quickly.
As for terrorising opposition, the standard of a good fitz hurler is senior inter county at Liam Mac level. Screeney hasnt shone at that level yet and until he does, and I hope he does, he will be a work in progress. UL players have all hurled county at minor and u20 and dont forget Cork, Tipp and Clare all won minor U20 or senior all irelands too in recent times. Limerick have won few seniors too and there is few of them there too! In UL thered be plenty of lads that hurled minor or U20 for hurling counties that wouldnt even make the Fitz panel. That is just a fact of their strength. Screeney didnt set world alight at Joe McDonagh level yet. You have to be realistic and fair on the lad to allow him grow without expectation.
Too often, Offaly supporters have put good young talent up on a pedestal way too soon, only for it to affect some lads to such a degree that they dont fulfil potential as seniors. Countless examples of it. Hope this wont happen with Screeney but give the lad a chance. Some here portray him to be the next Tony Kelly or Joe Canning. He is good at underage but there are levels to everything and as senior inter county hurler he is still unproven. Just because Offaly won an U20 and he was key cog wouldnt necessarily put him ahead of another lad who has done similar in other county. Weve had a few good years at underage lads and it has been a great ride after all the barren years, but Jesus, reign it in a bit. We love to see Offaly players doing well and Screeney has done brilliantly at underage but there is a step still to make to senior Liam Mac level. How well are the U20 football All Ireland 2021 champions doing at senior level - and that is Div 3? Perspective is everything here. We will struggle to stay in Leinster this year in senior hurling. Screeney is still U20 and younger than most of his competition for a starting spot. At least half that UL panel would make Offaly senior team so maybe just keep things in context a small bit and dont get so offended so quickly.
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Re: Offaly Senior Hurlers 2025
Adam English and O’Sullivan are the 2 midfielders, Cathal O’Neill is injured and O’Meara and Gearoid O’Connor are on the half forward line for UL.jimbob17 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:20 am Screeney is good, very good in fact. But he is 19 years old, small in stature etc. His competition is Adam English, Cathal O Neill, and then throw in G O Connor Tipp, B O Sullivan (Cork) Colm O meara Clare who have u20 and senior all irelands won in last 2 years and that is leaving out plenty of others that also would have all irelands at minor senior or u20 level recently. Screeney is small and wiry and on a good day he is excellent. I simply made the point that Fitz conditions (bar an astroturf pitch) would not suit him as well and he has stiff competition for a place. He would do well to make that inside forward line. Id love to see him on it but for him as a 2nd year, it is a tough challenge for him. Dont know why people have to pile in with the 'oh so offending comments'. Its a very fair comment to make.
As for terrorising opposition, the standard of a good fitz hurler is senior inter county at Liam Mac level. Screeney hasnt shone at that level yet and until he does, and I hope he does, he will be a work in progress. UL players have all hurled county at minor and u20 and dont forget Cork, Tipp and Clare all won minor U20 or senior all irelands too in recent times. Limerick have won few seniors too and there is few of them there too! In UL thered be plenty of lads that hurled minor or U20 for hurling counties that wouldnt even make the Fitz panel. That is just a fact of their strength. Screeney didnt set world alight at Joe McDonagh level yet. You have to be realistic and fair on the lad to allow him grow without expectation.
Too often, Offaly supporters have put good young talent up on a pedestal way too soon, only for it to affect some lads to such a degree that they dont fulfil potential as seniors. Countless examples of it. Hope this wont happen with Screeney but give the lad a chance. Some here portray him to be the next Tony Kelly or Joe Canning. He is good at underage but there are levels to everything and as senior inter county hurler he is still unproven. Just because Offaly won an U20 and he was key cog wouldnt necessarily put him ahead of another lad who has done similar in other county. Weve had a few good years at underage lads and it has been a great ride after all the barren years, but Jesus, reign it in a bit. We love to see Offaly players doing well and Screeney has done brilliantly at underage but there is a step still to make to senior Liam Mac level. How well are the U20 football All Ireland 2021 champions doing at senior level - and that is Div 3? Perspective is everything here. We will struggle to stay in Leinster this year in senior hurling. Screeney is still U20 and younger than most of his competition for a starting spot. At least half that UL panel would make Offaly senior team so maybe just keep things in context a small bit and dont get so offended so quickly.
The full forward Aidan O’Connor has 3 substitute appearances for Limerick in the league over the last 2 seasons.
The 2 corner forwards have no senior inter county experience.
All of these lads played u20 for their counties but none set the world alight in the same way Adam has.
It’s not putting him on a pedestal to say any of that.
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In last night’s games, MTU Cork pulled up a big upset win over University of Galway.
Dan Bourke was centre forward for Galway and scored a point, while Charlie Mitchell was full forward. The remainder of the lineup were all Galway.
The other game also ended in a shock, as TUS Midwest salvaged a draw against DCU.
James Mahon was corner back for the Limerick side with Sam Bourke at wing back, Colin Spain at midfield and Donal Shirley at wing forward for the Dubliners. Shirley scored a point and Sam Bourke got 2.
Dan Bourke was centre forward for Galway and scored a point, while Charlie Mitchell was full forward. The remainder of the lineup were all Galway.
The other game also ended in a shock, as TUS Midwest salvaged a draw against DCU.
James Mahon was corner back for the Limerick side with Sam Bourke at wing back, Colin Spain at midfield and Donal Shirley at wing forward for the Dubliners. Shirley scored a point and Sam Bourke got 2.
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Screeney is obviously very good and would make the college team to start out with. Would he stay on the team I'm not so sure and that's no slight on the guy. He's had absolutely brilliant games, even when weather conditions have been very poor and heavy ground to hurl on. He's also been fairly well handled which is also to be expected. There are very good hurlers in every county. Joe mcdonagh final he was cleaned out, micky butler never let him touch the ball. In the leinster final vs na fianna he was excellent, county final in horrible conditions he scored when it mattered. Castletown he also was very good in an incredibly tough match. And he's very young and has a long and probably brilliant career ahead of him.
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OK, but it is putting him on pedestal, when others say he would definitely start on UL fitz team ahead of a chunk of these inter county senior players. Ill admit there are few there he may be ahead of, but easily, O' Sullivan could be in a half forward line if other inter county lads get used in mf. Didnt know O Neill was injured and hed likely be either midfield or half forward, pushing other lads to inside line. English will likely be in forwards at business end of competition. Thatd likely move G O Connor to inside line. Aidan O' Connor would start ahead of Screeney in all likelihood. O'Meara is there too, as is Patrick Crotty, both of whom have senior All Irelands won with Clare and could play inside or on half forward line. There are others too that are contenders. I wouldn't be so presumptious to say he'd definitely start in inside forwards given his competition. That's all I said. I said he'd do well to start and that doesn't change..... sometimes Offaly look at own through biased glasses. I think people need to be realistic.faithfulfanatic wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:51 amAdam English and O’Sullivan are the 2 midfielders, Cathal O’Neill is injured and O’Meara and Gearoid O’Connor are on the half forward line for UL.jimbob17 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:20 am Screeney is good, very good in fact. But he is 19 years old, small in stature etc. His competition is Adam English, Cathal O Neill, and then throw in G O Connor Tipp, B O Sullivan (Cork) Colm O meara Clare who have u20 and senior all irelands won in last 2 years and that is leaving out plenty of others that also would have all irelands at minor senior or u20 level recently. Screeney is small and wiry and on a good day he is excellent. I simply made the point that Fitz conditions (bar an astroturf pitch) would not suit him as well and he has stiff competition for a place. He would do well to make that inside forward line. Id love to see him on it but for him as a 2nd year, it is a tough challenge for him. Dont know why people have to pile in with the 'oh so offending comments'. Its a very fair comment to make.
As for terrorising opposition, the standard of a good fitz hurler is senior inter county at Liam Mac level. Screeney hasnt shone at that level yet and until he does, and I hope he does, he will be a work in progress. UL players have all hurled county at minor and u20 and dont forget Cork, Tipp and Clare all won minor U20 or senior all irelands too in recent times. Limerick have won few seniors too and there is few of them there too! In UL thered be plenty of lads that hurled minor or U20 for hurling counties that wouldnt even make the Fitz panel. That is just a fact of their strength. Screeney didnt set world alight at Joe McDonagh level yet. You have to be realistic and fair on the lad to allow him grow without expectation.
Too often, Offaly supporters have put good young talent up on a pedestal way too soon, only for it to affect some lads to such a degree that they dont fulfil potential as seniors. Countless examples of it. Hope this wont happen with Screeney but give the lad a chance. Some here portray him to be the next Tony Kelly or Joe Canning. He is good at underage but there are levels to everything and as senior inter county hurler he is still unproven. Just because Offaly won an U20 and he was key cog wouldnt necessarily put him ahead of another lad who has done similar in other county. Weve had a few good years at underage lads and it has been a great ride after all the barren years, but Jesus, reign it in a bit. We love to see Offaly players doing well and Screeney has done brilliantly at underage but there is a step still to make to senior Liam Mac level. How well are the U20 football All Ireland 2021 champions doing at senior level - and that is Div 3? Perspective is everything here. We will struggle to stay in Leinster this year in senior hurling. Screeney is still U20 and younger than most of his competition for a starting spot. At least half that UL panel would make Offaly senior team so maybe just keep things in context a small bit and dont get so offended so quickly.
The full forward Aidan O’Connor has 3 substitute appearances for Limerick in the league over the last 2 seasons.
The 2 corner forwards have no senior inter county experience.
All of these lads played u20 for their counties but none set the world alight in the same way Adam has.
It’s not putting him on a pedestal to say any of that.
The standard of hurler generally in most Liam Mc counties is higher than it is in Offaly at moment. That will become apparent this Summer. The only way we can change this is to keep improving our structures.
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Re: Offaly Senior Hurlers 2025
Eanna Shalvey, highly rated s&c coach is involved with offaly this year.
Someone commented earlier that we have one if the smallest senior inter county teams in the country, hopefully his appointment leads to an increase in the athletic capacity of our players
Someone commented earlier that we have one if the smallest senior inter county teams in the country, hopefully his appointment leads to an increase in the athletic capacity of our players
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Fairly sure that’s the footballers he’s involved withpigeon house biffo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:14 pm Eanna Shalvey, highly rated s&c coach is involved with offaly this year.
Someone commented earlier that we have one if the smallest senior inter county teams in the country, hopefully his appointment leads to an increase in the athletic capacity of our players
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Mick never made the panel, but always wore the jersey. Never far from the post match interviews. Did he ever visit Temple St Hospital, with the winning AI teams?Bord na Mona man wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:25 pm Great reporting faithfulfanatic.
A few years ago, the most prominent Offaly man in the Fitzgibbon Cup was Mick McDonagh. It's a good trend that we're better represented these days.
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Strong Kilkenny team today
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Offay lead 0-10 to 0-07 after 27 minutes according to Twitter.
We lead 0-05 to 0-00 at one stage.
We lead 0-05 to 0-00 at one stage.
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1 -12 to 11. Halftime. Dan ravenhill with assist for goal which Charlie Mitchell scored.