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Edenderry with 1 miserable score from play in 60minutes and the mighty Rhode and Tullamore serve 4 points from play between them in a game that was described to me as "beyond atrocious" by a bemused eye witness from Daingean.

That's the general state of football around the country not just Offaly.
Monkey see monkey do attitude from all these managers with none of them having an original thought on how to approach the game. Same play book they are all working from.

Duignan and the county board have made a serious error of judgement with Harte if you ask me. I'd have cleared out the entire current management team and replaced them with 2 basketball coaches and an Aussie Rules defensive coach!
Honestly todays game is way closer to basketball than it is to proper Gaelic Football.
Hartes first league game in charge will be fascinating if only to see how shockingly depressing a sight it will be.
Gaelic Football is over and done as far as I'm concerned......go see a Junior B or C match if you want a bit of entertainment but otherwise keep your hard earned in your pocket because what is being served up is a disgrace.

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Agree 100% offaly football is in a very bad state

Even the quality of simple basic skills if you would call it that was terrible

Players go to solo the ball and nearly kick it over there head , nobody to kick a ball from 21 for a score or even willing to Try it

The ferbane penalty was a suicidal handpass , the went over the top of both players and ferbane got a penalty


A left footed player in a scoring position passing it back to a right footed player in a non scoring position

Ferbane broke with joe maher , cian Johnston was 1v1 in the centre foward position was the ball given ?

No it was held up slowed down and ferbane passed it foward and back to the half back line for 5 mins eventually someone thinks they can kick a ball over the bar regardless if there is edenderry player standing in the way to make an easy block

Edenderry go on the counter it's thier turn to slow it down and pass it back and foward for 5 mins and lose it by doing something almost similar things

Edenderrys goal was a big fluke from the mark it nearly happened a few times one in the first half hit the crossbar

Mickey harte definitely didn't come to offaly for the football 💲💲💲💲💲💲

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Johnny Tightlips wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:17 pm
Anonymous1 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:39 pm Was at Ferbane vs Edenderry and all I can say is Mickey Harte if you're reading, change your mind asap.

Absolutely horrendous stuff from both teams, there wasn't one player on the field you'd have picked out as county standard and these are meant to be 2 of our 4 best teams...

Both deserved to lose.

0-08 0-05 in the Tullamore vs Rhode game tells its own story.

Offaly football is in a dire dire state.

It is hard not to disagree with this. The Tullamore Rhode match was similarly terrible.

However, as opposed to blaming the standard of players I would instead question the standard of coaching at club level in the county. Tullamore and Rhode both the players and resources to produce much better football than what was seen today.
Coaching is definitely part of it.

I've been at a number of games across senior and intermediate and been struck by just how poor quality the games have been. I genuinely can't say I've seen one good game of football nor could I pick out any standout players.

There's something seriously wrong and it's hard to see how it would improve without an intervention from the top.

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frankthetank wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:01 pm Draw game in the end. 2-05 to 1-08. Edenderry only managed 0-01 play and that came in the 59th minute.

Highlight of the game was a cracking goal from Cian Farrell direct from a mark.

I’m beginning to think this championship is wide open and we could have a left field winner.
I'm not so sure.

Tullamore seem to be the clear no.1 and the team with the best chance of stopping them is Rhode if they can get Niall Mac back in 7 weeks time.

Ferbane and Edenderry have been woeful to date and there's nothing to suggest either can turn it around but at the same time neither can be ruled out.

Shamrocks and Durrow are the two "left field" winners I presume you're referring to but Durrow now face Tullamore in the QF and with Ballinamere going well in the hurling, football will likely become an afterthought. As for Shamrocks, they've had a good group stage but I struggle to see them beating Tullamore when the chips are down.

I can't see how you could make a case for either Bracknagh or Ballycommon.

There is the potential for a new finalist alright as the Shamrocks/Ballycommon winner will be a seeded semi finalist and therefore could draw the Edenderry/Bracknagh winners.

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Could be wrong on this but from the email of rules sent out my reading is that this is the lineup
Tullamore or Durrow against Edenderry or Bracknagh
Shamrocks or Ballycommon against Ferbane or Rhode

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Completely off topic here but can someone tell me what the 15 & 12 represents on the Clara crest ??

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Behindthegoal wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:52 pm Could be wrong on this but from the email of rules sent out my reading is that this is the lineup
Tullamore or Durrow against Edenderry or Bracknagh
Shamrocks or Ballycommon against Ferbane or Rhode
Reported in the Offaly Express as the winners of the QF's containing the group winners are seeded so Shamrocks/Ballycommon on one side and Tullamore/Durrow on the other side.

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Anonymous1 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:23 pm
frankthetank wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:01 pm Draw game in the end. 2-05 to 1-08. Edenderry only managed 0-01 play and that came in the 59th minute.

Highlight of the game was a cracking goal from Cian Farrell direct from a mark.

I’m beginning to think this championship is wide open and we could have a left field winner.
I'm not so sure.

Tullamore seem to be the clear no.1 and the team with the best chance of stopping them is Rhode if they can get Niall Mac back in 7 weeks time.

Ferbane and Edenderry have been woeful to date and there's nothing to suggest either can turn it around but at the same time neither can be ruled out.

Shamrocks and Durrow are the two "left field" winners I presume you're referring to but Durrow now face Tullamore in the QF and with Ballinamere going well in the hurling, football will likely become an afterthought. As for Shamrocks, they've had a good group stage but I struggle to see them beating Tullamore when the chips are down.

I can't see how you could make a case for either Bracknagh or Ballycommon.

There is the potential for a new finalist alright as the Shamrocks/Ballycommon winner will be a seeded semi finalist and therefore could draw the Edenderry/Bracknagh winners.
It was awful stuff today, for all the above reasons. Ferbane looked to have secured the win, but two Edenderry goals seemed to spook Ferbane, who got a late Cian Johnston point.

Quarter final I think wins for.
Tullamore,
Edenderry
Shamrocks.
Ferbane v Rhode hard to call, just have avery slight nod to Ferbane.





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bracknaghboy wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:46 pm Edenderry with 1 miserable score from play in 60minutes and the mighty Rhode and Tullamore serve 4 points from play between them in a game that was described to me as "beyond atrocious" by a bemused eye witness from Daingean.

That's the general state of football around the country not just Offaly.
Monkey see monkey do attitude from all these managers with none of them having an original thought on how to approach the game. Same play book they are all working from.

Duignan and the county board have made a serious error of judgement with Harte if you ask me. I'd have cleared out the entire current management team and replaced them with 2 basketball coaches and an Aussie Rules defensive coach!
Honestly todays game is way closer to basketball than it is to proper Gaelic Football.
Hartes first league game in charge will be fascinating if only to see how shockingly depressing a sight it will be.
Gaelic Football is over and done as far as I'm concerned......go see a Junior B or C match if you want a bit of entertainment but otherwise keep your hard earned in your pocket because what is being served up is a disgrace.
Change of Harte maybe? The Intermediate, and Junior games are more entertaining for some reason BB.

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SearingDrive wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:06 pm
bracknaghboy wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:46 pm Edenderry with 1 miserable score from play in 60minutes and the mighty Rhode and Tullamore serve 4 points from play between them in a game that was described to me as "beyond atrocious" by a bemused eye witness from Daingean.

That's the general state of football around the country not just Offaly.
Monkey see monkey do attitude from all these managers with none of them having an original thought on how to approach the game. Same play book they are all working from.

Duignan and the county board have made a serious error of judgement with Harte if you ask me. I'd have cleared out the entire current management team and replaced them with 2 basketball coaches and an Aussie Rules defensive coach!
Honestly todays game is way closer to basketball than it is to proper Gaelic Football.
Hartes first league game in charge will be fascinating if only to see how shockingly depressing a sight it will be.
Gaelic Football is over and done as far as I'm concerned......go see a Junior B or C match if you want a bit of entertainment but otherwise keep your hard earned in your pocket because what is being served up is a disgrace.
Change of Harte maybe? The Intermediate, and Junior games are more entertaining for some reason BB.
Less structure, not as well drilled so play with more reckless abandonment.

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G91 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 7:53 pm Agree 100% offaly football is in a very bad state

Even the quality of simple basic skills if you would call it that was terrible

Players go to solo the ball and nearly kick it over there head , nobody to kick a ball from 21 for a score or even willing to Try it

The ferbane penalty was a suicidal handpass , the went over the top of both players and ferbane got a penalty


A left footed player in a scoring position passing it back to a right footed player in a non scoring position

Ferbane broke with joe maher , cian Johnston was 1v1 in the centre foward position was the ball given ?

No it was held up slowed down and ferbane passed it foward and back to the half back line for 5 mins eventually someone thinks they can kick a ball over the bar regardless if there is edenderry player standing in the way to make an easy block

Edenderry go on the counter it's thier turn to slow it down and pass it back and foward for 5 mins and lose it by doing something almost similar things

Edenderrys goal was a big fluke from the mark it nearly happened a few times one in the first half hit the crossbar

Mickey harte definitely didn't come to offaly for the football 💲💲💲💲💲💲
Watched a bit on Clubber today. Thought Tullamore Rhode was most disappointing. Both teams should be able to serve up better fare than that. If Rhode dont get Niall Mc back, they will be in bother. To certain extent, I can understand how teams go out and be defensive v Tullamore as they simply have better players but I was fierce disappointed in Tullamore today. They have the players to go at teams but they are a hard watch.

I flicked between some of the games and went from the boring Tullamore Rhode game to that exact scenario you describe above. It was shocking from Ferbane who had ample opportunities to shoot before they did.

Through our overly negative approach and instilling fear of giving away the ball, some of our coaches have created so much risk averse footballers that just won't have a go or try anything creative. I thought that Ferbane Edenderry period you describe was painful. maybe it is a result of lads being overly coached at underage and not going out selling tricks and dummies and being inventive. There was little or no spark or creativity in any game today. What ever happened to the joy and freedom to go out and express yourself on the field. You'd have to look at what we are doing with so much of this going on, but it is a malaise across the country. These risk averse 'coaches' have taken the joy out of the game....

That said, Fossa played Laune Rangers in a belter in Kerry that was shown too. Either team would have hammered the pick of the 6 Offaly teams. They werent afraid to shoot from distance either and just go out and have a go.
jimbob

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Dodge83 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:44 pm Completely off topic here but can someone tell me what the 15 & 12 represents on the Clara crest ??
15th December (15 & 12) 1884 represents the date on which the Clara GAA club was founded, making it one of the older clubs in Ireland.
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The Magpie wrote: Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:25 am
Dodge83 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:44 pm Completely off topic here but can someone tell me what the 15 & 12 represents on the Clara crest ??
15th December (15 & 12) 1884 represents the date on which the Clara GAA club was founded, making it one of the older clubs in Ireland.
Thanks for that bit of background on Clara GAA magpie. I read somewhere that an M. H. White, a local businessman, was involved at that inaugural meeting.
I wonder could all clubs give the same details on their crest,, as provided by yourself.

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was at the Tullamore / Rhode game, terrible stuff, it took Rhode 22 minutes to score a point in the second half playing with the wind, Rhode seem to have alot of injuries at present, no player stood out, ref very poor,

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Just as an aside, in the spirit of being positive and inspired by Jonsey mentioning the ref above, that was another excellent job by Kevin Williamson in OCP yesterday. He is really developing into a top quality referee, well worthy of much bigger games. Unlikely to get the county final here as I find it hard to imagine that Tullamore won't be in it, but there should be bigger things in his future.
Kevin Egan. Signed out of respect for players and all involved with Offaly.

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