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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:42 pm
by Plain of the Herbs
Are you back? How are we supposed to believe a word you say?
Offalys Future wrote:I will not post any more from now until sunday
'Tis more than two years since he left school though.
Offalys Future wrote:And Brian carroll can hurl off he right as i remember two years ago against cork in birr he scored a point off his right.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:23 pm
by Dingle
Well, Ive be looking in here for a few yrs and its clear that If the party line isnt observed by a newcomer he can expect to be ganged up on. At least LS is willing to engage in debate, this Plain of Herbs character comes across as a right Jennet.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:31 pm
by Bord na Mona man
Dingle wrote:Well, Ive be looking in here for a few yrs and its clear that If the party line isnt observed by a newcomer he can expect to be ganged up on. At least LS is willing to engage in debate, this Plain of Herbs character comes across as a right Jennet.
Name calling is hardly the way to debate issues?
If you don't agree with someone, then by all means make your case and back it up.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:21 pm
by DD
Jasus, it's really building up between the newbies v the established forumists...if the double header is half as exciting, we'll have got our money's worth

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:21 pm
by The Magpie
I think there's some level of 'tongue in cheek' there Dingle...I think you're just itching for us to come together and gang up on you to prove the gang / click theory
Not gonna happen.
As I've said before, POTH may have his opinions (don't we all), but his contribution to this site cannot be underestimated. See the Offaly Vs Kilkenny thread for an example of a preview that's second-to-none.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:29 pm
by Kevin
Lone Shark wrote:kinnittyman wrote:Sorry LS im a stand man through and through. My 26 year old bones couldnt possibly be expected to stand for 4 hours!!!
The Magpie wrote:As for Sunday, I won't be joining yee under the Shark. Some of us have to maintain our standards

Can I just say that in all this discussion about the team, this lack of commitment from the supporters has gone un-noticed??? Lads, I don't know how we're going to get back amongst the most fiercely supported team in Ireland with these kind of attitudes...... and ye had such great potential as minors!
Incidentally, I'm going to let the 26 year old thing slide. Suffice it to say that if Uibhfhaili.com was fielding a team, a 26 year old like yourself would be lined out at midfield because a yungfella like you would be needed where you could do all the hard running!!! Us ould lads are destroyed from too many four hour stints standing on concrete terraces....

Loneshark, is it really the '4 hour stints standing on concrete terraces' or the subsequent 8 hours standing (while doing other things naturally) in the pub???!!! Please excuse me if you are a non-drinker.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:34 pm
by Rynaghs Biffo
Dingle wrote:Well, Ive be looking in here for a few yrs and its clear that If the party line isnt observed by a newcomer he can expect to be ganged up on. At least LS is willing to engage in debate, this Plain of Herbs character comes across as a right Jennet.
He won't like that!!!
Thats totally uncall for!! Read thru all of the previews to each game that POTH has done, undoubtly the best you'll ever see for a long time!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:54 pm
by Kevin
He should be writing for a newspaper if he doesn't already.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:55 pm
by Lone Shark
Dingle wrote:Well, Ive be looking in here for a few yrs and its clear that If the party line isnt observed by a newcomer he can expect to be ganged up on. At least LS is willing to engage in debate, this Plain of Herbs character comes across as a right Jennet.
I'm not really sure what this "party line" is, I have to say that if the site was an example of pasteurised homogenised debate before this I didn't notice it. The whole point of an internet forum is to get away from that, and in case anyone is any doubt, the fact that so far on the site we've booted out one individual, (that for posting p*rn) should say it all about our attitude to free speech and discussion.
Without wanting to get too much into the "ye're either fir us or agin us" kind of line, people were willing to debate a lot of these issues with Offaly's Future, and in actual fact there was widespread acknowledgement of the legitimacy of most of his points, if not agreement with regard to potential remedies. When things turned a little bit was when he started picking on individuals.
(OF, you may contend that you didn't, but for one example, how many schools are there in Offaly with more than 1000 pupils? You don't fall short of naming names when you start at that craic)
I'll agree that POTH responses were a little tart, for want of a better phrase, but his knowledge of Offaly Hurling is unsurpassed on this site at least, and once the personal criticism began it was reasonable to expect that a few people mightn't appreciate it. I've no idea it POTH knows any of the people Offaly's Future singled out, but that's not the issue - the point is that he might, as might any other poster/reader on here. Equally I have to side with him in that Offaly's Future has hitherto ducked a lot of the practicality aspects, aspects which both myself and POTH have highlighted.
I've no doubt that POTH as well as myself plus anyone else who feels like it will welcome any further contribution from Offaly's Future that digs deeper into these issues, particularly ones that examine the nuts and bolts of turning idealistic solutions into practical ones - thus far the crucial hole in a lot of his suggestions.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:16 pm
by black and red exile
Offalys future, we would love to have you join us on Sunday under the commentry box on the terrace. We promise you we won't beat you up or verbally intimidate you in any way, we really are a nice bunch of lads, the kind of boys any parent would love their daughter to marry and even though you sound like a guy who seems to think he is always right, we actually really do respect you're opinions, EVEN PLAIN OF THE HERBS.
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:43 pm
by Lone Shark
Kevin wrote:Lone Shark wrote:kinnittyman wrote:Sorry LS im a stand man through and through. My 26 year old bones couldnt possibly be expected to stand for 4 hours!!!
The Magpie wrote:As for Sunday, I won't be joining yee under the Shark. Some of us have to maintain our standards

Can I just say that in all this discussion about the team, this lack of commitment from the supporters has gone un-noticed??? Lads, I don't know how we're going to get back amongst the most fiercely supported team in Ireland with these kind of attitudes...... and ye had such great potential as minors!
Incidentally, I'm going to let the 26 year old thing slide. Suffice it to say that if Uibhfhaili.com was fielding a team, a 26 year old like yourself would be lined out at midfield because a yungfella like you would be needed where you could do all the hard running!!! Us ould lads are destroyed from too many four hour stints standing on concrete terraces....

Loneshark, is it really the '4 hour stints standing on concrete terraces' or the subsequent 8 hours standing (while doing other things naturally) in the pub???!!! Please excuse me if you are a non-drinker.
As luck would have it......
Though no doubt the pub standing takes an equal toll if you're just drinking lucozade, so it could be a fair point!!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:04 pm
by corner back
KK team
PJ ryan
Kavanagh, hickey tyrell
walsh hogan delaney
cha lyng
o'dwyer henry larkin
eddie gorta fogarty
not that intimidating
tennyson a big loss
full back line could be taken
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:36 pm
by Bord na Mona man
On paper that shouldn't be a Kilkenny team to be feared.
There's a good bit of inexperience there because of their injuries problems.
If that 15 playing against us were wearing Waterford jersies, we wouldn't fear them half as much.
It's time we stopped doffing our cap to the fcukers and got stuck into them!
