General Election 2024 - Offaly Constituency

[Anonymous1]

Very few people stand by their principles in politics, that is why Carol Nolan attracts those people who did not follow the so called, ‘ Liberal agenda’ in supporting abortion, which is the deliberate killing of unborn babies.
People voted because there were supposed to be strict guidelines, which were eased in the last few years, thanks to the PBP.

What strict guidelines have been eased?

There were a lot of politicians in the major parties, including the current government, who initially opposed abortion, but followed the populist line, wrestled with their conscience, and the conscience lost. People do not forget that. Anyone who supports a pro life line, will be ridiculed, derided in the media as dinosaurs, when they are expressing an opinion.

It’s a bit rich to be taking aim at politicians whose views have evolved over time on one hand but on the other hand praise Nolan whose views have evolved from supporting a party that espouses democratic socialism to now claiming to represent the Catholic conservative element of Irish society.

The silent majority usually wait for an election to express their views on politicians.
The rise in Independent candidates is because they represent the real people, not the trendy woke generation, or the cultural elite who have a solution for everything, and are opposed to ‘traditional values’.

The rise in support for independent candidates is largely due to the fact that the lead opposition party have provided very little opposition to the current government.

I stand by what I posted. If you have a problem, that is democracy. Other posters have expressed similar views.

I don’t have a problem with you expressing your opinion, that’s the essence of democracy.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinions but nobody is entitled to their own facts.

So with that in mind, I’ll ask you again “ What strict guidelines have been eased?”

[frankthetank]

The silent majority - The majority of people, regarded as holding moderate opinions but rarely expressing them.

I’m not sure I’d term a candidate who’s received 8% and 11% of FPV’s as being in the “silent majority”

Again, she was on the wrong side of the “silent majority” in 2018 when she voted against a woman’s right to choose.

I’ll fix your shortcomings in semantics:
She voted against the legalising of abortion of babies
in Ireland.

Amazing for someone who is clearly pro abortion you don’t seem to like to use the term.

She voted against giving women the right to choose what happens to their own bodies.

Call it anti-abortion or pro-life or whatever other term you like, that’s the simple reality of what her vote meant.

Thankfully for all of our mothers, sisters, wives, daughters and nieces the people of Ireland voted in favour of compassion so we never again see what happened to people like Savita Halapannavar.

Dress it up whatever way you want buddy, but you support the killing of babies.

Simple as.

If it helps you to sleep at night to think that people aren’t having abortions as a lifestyle choice (e.g I’m too busy for a baby) go right ahead.

[Anonymous1]

I’ll fix your shortcomings in semantics:
She voted against the legalising of abortion of babies
in Ireland.

Amazing for someone who is clearly pro abortion you don’t seem to like to use the term.

She voted against giving women the right to choose what happens to their own bodies.

Call it anti-abortion or pro-life or whatever other term you like, that’s the simple reality of what her vote meant.

Thankfully for all of our mothers, sisters, wives, daughters and nieces the people of Ireland voted in favour of compassion so we never again see what happened to people like Savita Halapannavar.

Dress it up whatever way you want buddy, but you support the killing of babies.

Simple as.

If it helps you to sleep at night to think that people aren’t having abortions as a lifestyle choice (e.g I’m too busy for a baby) go right ahead.

Dress it up whatever way you want buddy, but you support the killing of women.

Simple as.

If it helps you to sleep at night to think that women didn’t die because of the 8th amendment (e.g Savita Halappanavar) go right ahead.

[SearingDrive]

This election will be history next Saturday.

[Bord na Mona man]

Carol Nolan's decision to go independent and leave Sinn Féin on a principle could be considered admirable, as it involved taking a sizable risk. By stepping away, she forfeited the substantial funding and popular branding the party provides. However, being independent isn’t entirely high-risk. It allows her to attract a segment of voters who may not have supported her under the Sinn Féin banner but admire her constituency work.

On the other hand, her departure raises questions about how she ended up in Sinn Féin in the first place? Her conservative stance on abortion and her preference for stricter immigration controls, would mark her as right of centre. During her time there, Sinn Féin were a left-wing, open-borders party.

It also highlights how Sinn Féin's policies on topics like immigration may have been "back of the envelope" theoretical ideas rather than ones they expected to be road-tested.

[Anonymous1]

Carol Nolan's decision to go independent and leave Sinn Féin on a principle could be considered admirable, as it involved taking a sizable risk. By stepping away, she forfeited the substantial funding and popular branding the party provides. However, being independent isn’t entirely high-risk. It allows her to attract a segment of voters who may not have supported her under the Sinn Féin banner but admire her constituency work.

It is much easier to retain your seat as an independent than as a member of a political party. In a party, you’re at the mercy of a national swing which is totally beyond your control. Independents’ support doesn’t have the same level of volatility as they’re not a homogeneous group so aren’t wedded to any particular ideology and can go whichever way the wind blows at any given moment, they’re also free of the unpopularity that comes with decision making in government.

On the other hand, her departure raises questions about how she ended up in Sinn Féin in the first place? Her conservative stance on abortion and her preference for stricter immigration controls, would mark her as right of centre. During her time there, Sinn Féin were a left-wing, open-borders party.

Sinn Féin used to attract anti-establishment voters from both extremes of the political spectrum. Both far-left and far-right voters can agree on the need for more housing or agree that the carbon taxes or property taxes are hurting the poorest in society disproportionately so should be abolished.

And SF played both sides remarkably well to be fair to them.

In June 2022, SF were averaging 36% in the polls - drawing large amounts of voters from the middle and working classes, rural and urban, young and old but that all began to go pear-shaped when the issue of immigration came to the fore.

SF’s core working-class base became disillusioned with the party for not taking an anti-immigration stance. These are the most marginalised people in society who voted for SF for so long in the knowledge that SF would always stand up for them.

But Sinn Féin market themselves as a “party of the left” and those newfound younger liberal middle class voters (who came over to SF in 2020 in droves on the premise that Eoin O’Broin would deliver them all houses for pennies) wouldn’t countenance voting for a party that didn’t look out for vulnerable people seeking refuge.

So SF had a choice to make, shift rightwards on migration to stave off the loss of their conservative working class base to the independents or support the right of asylum seekers to seek refuge here.

They did neither, they slowly pivoted towards the right as their % in the polls declined but never moved anywhere near enough right to win back those working class conservative voters. However, in the process of moving right, they began to bleed some of their younger liberal middle class voters particularly in Dublin to the likes of the SocDems, Labour and even FG.

So in the end, they’ve wound up losing votes to their left and to their right and I’m not sure anybody still knows what their position on immigration actually is.

That’s why I bristle when people describe them as a party of the “left”. They’re a populist party and always have been. There’s no policy they won’t shift their position on if they think it would win them votes. Their only goal is a United Ireland, everything else is a means to an end.

[first_touch]

My view is that it will make very little difference what way we vote in the general election. Because there is very little difference between any of the political parties.

This became glaringly obvious during the 'covid' drama where all parties and most independents supported crazy lockdown policies, enforced mask wearing and a reckless and dangerous gene therapy experiment. This globalist orchestrated scam has resulted in an unprecedented transfer of wealth to the richest 1%, a surge in mental illness arising from persistent scaremongering and, since early 2021, an alarming increase in excess deaths and illnesses.

Unfortunately, there are other instances of Ireland implementing insane globalist policies such as that of immigration which has nothing to do with care and compassion for refugees. And a 'green agenda'/'climate change' policy which is actually causing more harm to the environment. Not to mention support for the NATO provoked war in Ukraine instead of asserting our neutrality to help to broker a peace agreement.

What is obvious to me is that we are no longer a sovereign state but instead are under the control of globalist forces such as the United Nations, World Health Organisation, the EU and especially the World Economic Forum.

I can't figure out whether our political leaders are gullible and incompetent or wilful collaborators or are being coerced by more powerful forces.

This country is crying out for political leadership which will be honest with the people and admit that we are under the control of mega corporations and global alliances and that we need to develop localised responses to global problems if we are to survive as a human race. This is very unlikely to happen from the top down so it is up to people on the ground to organise local systems, providing much of their own food, energy, shelter, health care and education.

This revolution is happening quietly and under the radar and it is the real 'opposition' as it shows a new and better way to meet our needs. It is also the best way for people to utilise their ingenuity, find their purpose and assert their autonomy and interdependence.

In this context the upcoming election looks like a tragic sideshow and, if people put their faith in it, the precursor to yet another false dawn.

[Anonymous1]

My view is that it will make very little difference what way we vote in the general election. Because there is very little difference between any of the political parties.

This became glaringly obvious during the 'covid' drama where all parties and most independents supported crazy lockdown policies, enforced mask wearing and a reckless and dangerous gene therapy experiment. This globalist orchestrated scam has resulted in an unprecedented transfer of wealth to the richest 1%, a surge in mental illness arising from persistent scaremongering and, since early 2021, an alarming increase in excess deaths and illnesses.

Unfortunately, there are other instances of Ireland implementing insane globalist policies such as that of immigration which has nothing to do with care and compassion for refugees. And a 'green agenda'/'climate change' policy which is actually causing more harm to the environment. Not to mention support for the NATO provoked war in Ukraine instead of asserting our neutrality to help to broker a peace agreement.

What is obvious to me is that we are no longer a sovereign state but instead are under the control of globalist forces such as the United Nations, World Health Organisation, the EU and especially the World Economic Forum.

I can't figure out whether our political leaders are gullible and incompetent or wilful collaborators or are being coerced by more powerful forces.

This country is crying out for political leadership which will be honest with the people and admit that we are under the control of mega corporations and global alliances and that we need to develop localised responses to global problems if we are to survive as a human race. This is very unlikely to happen from the top down so it is up to people on the ground to organise local systems, providing much of their own food, energy, shelter, health care and education.

This revolution is happening quietly and under the radar and it is the real 'opposition' as it shows a new and better way to meet our needs. It is also the best way for people to utilise their ingenuity, find their purpose and assert their autonomy and interdependence.

In this context the upcoming election looks like a tragic sideshow and, if people put their faith in it, the precursor to yet another false dawn.

Help is available.

[bracknaghboy]

Help is available.

Good because you need help and you need it badly.
On here for the last week spouting every establishment catch phrase that there is.

The country has never been better.........
Lets stick with the same politicians.....

blah blah blah.

Take one day off from RTE Anonymus1, put down the Irish Times and take a day away from the FF/FG cult and open the door and look around you.


- People can't rent a house let alone buy a house. That's a reality up and down the country.
- People can't get GP appointment's in a timely manner and are on hospital waiting lists for years.
- They are stopping us burning a bag of turf.
- They want "hate speech" laws to stop any speaking out about the carry on.
- A government minister put out a Tweet in multiple languages asking people from all around the world to come to Ireland and they will get their own door accommodation after 4 months. And you claim they aren't trying to destroy the country?
- We have gone from been a relatively neutral country to taking sides in major world conflicts putting us all at risk.
- Hundreds of men are being dumped on small communities up and down the country and nobody knows why. Where are the women and children?
- 7 or 8 Billion a year is squandered on NGO's so that they can lecture to us about what awful people we are and their CEO's can drive around in flash car's with 100k salaries.

The good news is that ordinary people are staring to ask about all the above, slowly they are seeing what is going on. At least in Offaly Carol Nolan will romp home so us that oppose what's going on will have a voice up there.

[Anonymous1]

Help is available.

Good because you need help and you need it badly.

On here for the last week spouting every establishment catch phrase that there is.

The country has never been better.........
Lets stick with the same politicians.....

blah blah blah.

Take one day off from RTE Anonymus1, put down the Irish Times and take a day away from the FF/FG cult and open the door and look around you.


- People can't rent a house let alone buy a house. That's a reality up and down the country.
- People can't get GP appointment's in a timely manner and are on hospital waiting lists for years.
- They are stopping us burning a bag of turf.
- They want "hate speech" laws to stop any speaking out about the carry on.
- A government minister put out a Tweet in multiple languages asking people from all around the world to come to Ireland and they will get their own door accommodation after 4 months. And you claim they aren't trying to destroy the country?
- We have gone from been a relatively neutral country to taking sides in major world conflicts putting us all at risk.
- Hundreds of men are being dumped on small communities up and down the country and nobody knows why. Where are the women and children?
- 7 or 8 Billion a year is squandered on NGO's so that they can lecture to us about what awful people we are and their CEO's can drive around in flash car's with 100k salaries.

The good news is that ordinary people are staring to ask about all the above, slowly they are seeing what is going on. At least in Offaly Carol Nolan will romp home so us that oppose what's going on will have a voice up there.

Good because you need help and you need it badly.

On here for the last week spouting every anti-establishment catch phrase that there is.

The country has never been worse.........
Let’s change all the politicians.....

blah blah blah.

Take one day off from X BracknaghBoy, put down Gript and take a day away from the far-right cult and open the door and look around you.

- People can rent houses and buy houses. That's a reality up and down the country.
- People can get GP appointment's in a timely manner and aren’t on hospital waiting lists for years.
- They aren’t stopping us burning a bag of turf.
- They don’t want "hate speech" laws to stop any speaking out about the carry on.
- A Green Party minister put out a Tweet in multiple languages asking people from all around the world to come to Ireland and they will get their own door accommodation after 4 months. And you claim they aren't trying to destroy the country?
- We have always been a relatively neutral country and have never taken sides in major world conflicts saving us from risk.
- Hundreds of Irish men are being dumped on small communities up and down Australia and nobody knows why. Where are the women and children?
- 6 Billion a year is spent on NGO's like Mental Health Ireland and Women’s aid so that they can help the most vulnerable in our society.

The good news is that ordinary people are staring to ask about all the above, slowly they are seeing what is going on. At least in Offaly Tony McCormack (and likely John Clendennen) will romp home so us that support what's going on will have a voice up there.
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[bracknaghboy]

We'll leave it at that so. A 5 year old would engage better than you.
Resorting to the above response......people can make their own mind up about it

[Anonymous1]

We'll leave it at that so. A 5 year old would engage better than you.
Resorting to the above response......people can make their own mind up about it

They will indeed… 5 more years incoming.

Hopefully you’re not totally gone off the deep end and will at least accept the outcome of a free and fair election.

Put the feet up, enjoy the hurling and for the love of God, stop drinking the kool-aid.

[SearingDrive]

We'll leave it at that so. A 5 year old would engage better than you.
Resorting to the above response......people can make their own mind up about it

I’m with you BB, some people just tone deaf, relying on smart alecky replies.

[ah lethimoutwithit]

I think this topic should be closed as really this is a GAA forum and we struggle to get cohesive views on that at times.

Bit late now, but I think it should be taken down.

But to add a general comment, it amazes me how many get absoutely agitated over politics, or local organisations but would not lift a finger to get involved in grass roots in any organisation! But get loose on a keyboard.....!

[faithfulfanatic]

I think this topic should be closed as really this is a GAA forum and we struggle to get cohesive views on that at times.

Bit late now, but I think it should be taken down.

But to add a general comment, it amazes me how many get absoutely agitated over politics, or local organisations but would not lift a finger to get involved in grass roots in any organisation! But get loose on a keyboard.....!

Apologies, I was the one who initially set up this thread.
I was hoping to get a few reactions to the poll to see what way people are thinking, didn’t expect any of the above
Fully agree with your comments