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Rubbish. I'd safely say the Club All-Ireland hasn't been mentioned by the Coolderry management or team.

To do so would be a distraction, and would be fatal. I expect Coolderry are fully focussed on Sunday, and on nothing else. Leave the dreaming to the Wexford crowd.
townman wrote:i also left out besides Coolderry been 60 minutes away from a leinster club title there is also an all ireland club title there
to be taking i am sure Ken Hogan has said as much
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Plain of the Herbs and Lone Shark (read this this weeks Independent) both think this game will be won and lost because of newspaper articles written by the Wexford press. Coming from two of the most intelligent and insightful posters on here I personally think this is madness! Whats written in the papers will have absolutley zero impact on the outcome of this game. If anybody thinks that Oulart players will decide to give say only 80% effort as opposed to 100% because of a few lines in the local paper then God help us. Its a 50-50 game this so Coolderry have nothing to fear and if they perform even close to the last day they may well provide Offaly hurling with a modest but badly needed shot in the arm.

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yes agree you will win nothing with your mouth, or what the paper says, Coolderry in my opinion are as good if not better than Oulart
they have been around since the drew with Birr in 2003 semil final thats 9 years.

oulart have a weak point they have lost two club final in the last few years not to mention Birrs win in 1994 and oulart lost in 1995 to i think
if Coolderry get in their head or and can be with them or ahead near the end they will take them.

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You are correct. The match will be won on the pitch and between the white lines. Because the sides haven’t met before there is a possibility that one team is ten points better than the other and if that is the case then all the talking in the world won’t change that.

In the background, though is the whole myriad on the psychological preparation. In any close game the winning team is the one who gets their preparation spot-on. Fully focussed, if you like. The mindset of the losing team might be off by a mere 5% or so but that would be enough to capsize the ship. Nobody ‘decides’ to give less than 100% but it always happens. Michael Duignan has some interesting things to say in his book when he writes about the 1989 Offaly v Antrim semi-final.

I was anxious to see how Wexford were approaching this match so I had a gander at the Wexford People on-line, because chances are what they are saying is what people are thinking anyway. I was actually quite shocked at their bullishness. To me, there is a lack of focus in Wexford.

Put it this way, why are there shock results betimes? Because the favourites, perhaps subconsciously, think that no matter what happens they will pull through. Meanwhile the underdogs are of a mindset that they have to fight for every ball as if their life depends on it. The recent Edenderry v Clara football final being a case in point.

Managers and players will go to any lengths to get a psychological leg-up, while going to great lengths to avoid giving the opposition any motivational nuggets. That’s why they talk up the opposition, cover up real injuries and bore us all with made-up tales about injuries.

Put another way, if you’ve got a hobby (playing football or hurling, for example) and I say you’re not good enough, what’s your reaction going to be? Your options are to agree with me or to ram my words down my throat. Of course you’re going to choose the latter – your pride has been hurt.

I recall before the 1989 Leinster hurling final Martin Breheny did an interview with Joachim Kelly in that day’s Sunday Press. Kelly was great for the motivational stuff and the article finished up with Kelly quoted (I’m paraphrasing) “you put a big heading on your paper with ‘Kilkenny are favourites’ and we’ll go out and prove you wrong” (Kilkenny were unbackable favourites pre-match). So stuff like that IS used.

To finish where I started, maybe Oulart really are ten points better than Coolderry and if they are then fair enough – all the motivational talk in the world isn’t going to help Westmeath hurlers beat Kilkenny.

I could live with Coolderry being given consideration and, after weighing up the pros and cons, let the conclusion be that Oulart will be the likely winners. However, Coolderry have been dismissed as ‘nobodies’ in Wexford. I think Coolderry have been handed some serious motivational material here. If they’re good enough they’ll win it.
bracknaghboy wrote:Plain of the Herbs and Lone Shark (read this this weeks Independent) both think this game will be won and lost because of newspaper articles written by the Wexford press. Coming from two of the most intelligent and insightful posters on here I personally think this is madness! Whats written in the papers will have absolutley zero impact on the outcome of this game. If anybody thinks that Oulart players will decide to give say only 80% effort as opposed to 100% because of a few lines in the local paper then God help us. Its a 50-50 game this so Coolderry have nothing to fear and if they perform even close to the last day they may well provide Offaly hurling with a modest but badly needed shot in the arm.
Pat Donegan. Signed out of respect for players and all involved with Offaly.

"Offaly's hurling is exact and abrasive: full of assurance on the ball, devoid of fumbling and slicing and sod-busting". Kevin Cashman RIP (September 1994).

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Right lads just want to congratulate coolderry on their win tomorrow.. we are thinking of not turning up at all. we have been sitting around in training for the past 3 weeks reading the papers and getting big heads.. now we see on this post thats not how to win a game?? we thought it was bad enough that we hadn't fully gotten over the hammering birr gave us in 94 then glenmore took us apart in 95 and as for the gaels last year??? jesus. oh and townman your not the only one that can register on more than one county's forum and talk shite... anyway good luck tomorrow to all you genuine coolderry supporters.. which ever team wins we know both teams will be giving it their all and should prove a cracking final

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Oulartman, I wouldn't pay too much attention to Townman-nobody here does anyways and it seems to be a winning formula for all concerned.

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oulartman wrote:Right lads just want to congratulate coolderry on their win tomorrow.. we are thinking of not turning up at all. we have been sitting around in training for the past 3 weeks reading the papers and getting big heads.. now we see on this post thats not how to win a game?? we thought it was bad enough that we hadn't fully gotten over the hammering birr gave us in 94 then glenmore took us apart in 95 and as for the gaels last year??? jesus. oh and townman your not the only one that can register on more than one county's forum and talk shite... anyway good luck tomorrow to all you genuine coolderry supporters.. which ever team wins we know both teams will be giving it their all and should prove a cracking final
That lad could pick a fight in an empty room. He got a topic on the michael duignan book closed down yesterday on AFR
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joe bloggs wrote:
oulartman wrote:Right lads just want to congratulate coolderry on their win tomorrow.. we are thinking of not turning up at all. we have been sitting around in training for the past 3 weeks reading the papers and getting big heads.. now we see on this post thats not how to win a game?? we thought it was bad enough that we hadn't fully gotten over the hammering birr gave us in 94 then glenmore took us apart in 95 and as for the gaels last year??? jesus. oh and townman your not the only one that can register on more than one county's forum and talk shite... anyway good luck tomorrow to all you genuine coolderry supporters.. which ever team wins we know both teams will be giving it their all and should prove a cracking final
That lad could pick a fight in an empty room. He got a topic on the michael duignan book closed down yesterday on AFR
well it might sit well with you a clareman calling Duignan boghooper and calling his family hoors and running offaly into the ground
fcuk sake even a laoisman stood up again the clare boll.x .

and get your facts right it wasn't what i said that got it closed it was about magpie joking about Duignan loss in the family
so feck off with yourself.

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Congrats to Coolderry leinster club winners 2011 knew yea had the hurling to do it.
off to the bookies in the morning, also great support for Coolderry from all over offaly today
off for a few pints in comer tonite its not often we win leinster these days :D

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well done and fair play to coolderry on their first ever leinster final win. it was great to see the support from all over offaly today that was at the game and hopefully this will give hurling a great lift in the county. i thought oulart were hurling the better in the first half and missed a good few chances from play and frees. coolderry lifted their game in the second half and parlons goal kick started a rally of scores from coolderry. i thought joe brady played super , he caught balls out of the sky and hit hard and fair. coolderry in the second half battled well and put great pressure on the oulart men , coolderrys backs did the job once again and i thought the keeper did very well catching the high balls coming in . carroll and parlon stepped up and showed leadership, ryan and murray were quite enough but did pop up with some vital scores. kevin connolly number 23 scored a peach of a point when he was brought on and he played well when introduced. i think its the galway champions they play next and it would be great to see coolderry go all the way and win the all ireland.well done and enjoy the celebrations.

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kingscounty wrote:well done and fair play to coolderry on their first ever leinster final win. it was great to see the support from all over offaly today that was at the game and hopefully this will give hurling a great lift in the county. i thought oulart were hurling the better in the first half and missed a good few chances from play and frees. coolderry lifted their game in the second half and parlons goal kick started a rally of scores from coolderry. i thought joe brady played super , he caught balls out of the sky and hit hard and fair. coolderry in the second half battled well and put great pressure on the oulart men , coolderrys backs did the job once again and i thought the keeper did very well catching the high balls coming in . carroll and parlon stepped up and showed leadership, ryan and murray were quite enough but did pop up with some vital scores. kevin connolly number 23 scored a peach of a point when he was brought on and he played well when introduced. i think its the galway champions they play next and it would be great to see coolderry go all the way and win the all ireland.well done and enjoy the celebrations.
yes its Gort next Thurles i'd say, the roar Coolderry got when they ran out was great the had more of the support today, Joe Brady and Trevor Corcoran were great

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townman wrote:
joe bloggs wrote:
oulartman wrote:Right lads just want to congratulate coolderry on their win tomorrow.. we are thinking of not turning up at all. we have been sitting around in training for the past 3 weeks reading the papers and getting big heads.. now we see on this post thats not how to win a game?? we thought it was bad enough that we hadn't fully gotten over the hammering birr gave us in 94 then glenmore took us apart in 95 and as for the gaels last year??? jesus. oh and townman your not the only one that can register on more than one county's forum and talk shite... anyway good luck tomorrow to all you genuine coolderry supporters.. which ever team wins we know both teams will be giving it their all and should prove a cracking final
That lad could pick a fight in an empty room. He got a topic on the michael duignan book closed down yesterday on AFR
well it might sit well with you a clareman calling Duignan boghooper and calling his family hoors and running offaly into the ground
fcuk sake even a laoisman stood up again the clare boll.x .

and get your facts right it wasn't what i said that got it closed it was about magpie joking about Duignan loss in the family
so feck off with yourself.
I didn't see the end of your argument with magpie, which was getting heated. However you did get a red card from AFR so you must have overstepped somewhere along the line. Remember, as in hurling, play the ball and not the man and you will be fine.
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Congratulations to Coolderry club on a tremendous win yesterday. They hurled well and it could have been more. Most lads hurled really well and what I will say is every one of them gave it 100% effort.

They had great support yesterday and that seems to be a feature of Coolderry whether its junior B or senior games. Have to say I was very happy to see them win it and I hope they really knuckle down again and realise that its one game away from Croke park on Patricks days. A massive challenge awaits them and they will go in as underdogs again but if they work hard over the next two months they certainly have a chance.

To all involved, enjoy yesterday, but keep the focus and working hard. Well done.

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Congratulations to Coolderry on yesterdays victory.
It should be a great boost for the county hurling scene heading into the new year.
Hopefully the county team can emulate some of this success in the near future!

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you know yourself Joe Bloggs if you can't get the ball get your man. :wink:

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