Offaly Senior Hurlers 2025

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There was about 65 minutes on the clock when Burke was sent off. Play was stopped for another minute or so while Shirley continued to be treated for the hit.
On 70 minutes, there was 5 minutes indicated to be added on. There was then another stoppage for maybe 90 seconds, so the final whistle went at about 77 minutes.

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oneshot wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:25 pm thats what iam saying they put in as much effort and training as the footballer's but little support. i suppose offaly are not much better very few in o'connor park any sunday they are hurling .
You should tag along to an Offaly football game sometime.

They get even smaller crowds than the hurlers.

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Wing Back wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:24 pm
Bord na Mona man wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:46 pm Yes, let's calm down here. Dublin would be rightfully favourites to beat Offaly in Parnell for lots of reasons.

Like...
- Offaly no longer have an element of surprise. At no point in the build up, or for the first hour of Saturday's match would Dublin have contemplated losing to Offaly.
- Dublin's style of hurling, working the ball through the lines, suits a tight pitch better.
- In contrast, Offaly prefer more space to avoid contact.
- Dublin would have proper home support there.
- Their new manager will have settled in and be more familiar with his squad.

Now is not the time to be signing up to reservoirdubs.com to start taunting the locals over a league game...but unfortunately not everyone got that memo.
Agree with all of this. We should just focus on ourselves, leave other counties to their own devices. Even though we got our noses in front at the death, Dublin held us at bay for large parts of the match, so plenty we can work on.

Just out of curiosity what results are needed now for promotion? If we beat Westmeath and lose to waterford, we need Dublin to beat Carlow. This leaves us and carlow level. With result between waterfotd and Dublin deciding who tops league table. Are we expecting to blitz carlow on the score difference or what? As that is not a given either. Maybe someone can shed some light on it.

I do understand the simple approach is to beat the deise, but that is easier said than done, and carlow have already put them on red alert. So I'm thinking my 1st scenario is more likely at this point.
10 points would have us safe (Beat Westmeath and draw with Waterford)

Only one of Dublin or Waterford can get to 10 points as they play each other. Both can get to 9 points if they were to draw.

Carlow can still get to 11 points if they win their last 4 games but that seems unlikely. (And would include beating Dublin thus depriving them of getting to 10 points)

Assuming there’s a winner in the Dublin vs Waterford game and Dublin beat Carlow, we’d need Carlow to drop points in one of their other three games or to finish with a better score difference than them.

If Carlow get to 11 points then Dublin can only get to 9.

If Waterford get to 10 points then Dublin can only get to 9.

If Dublin get to 10 points then Carlow can only get to 9 points and Waterford can only get to 8 points.

So as far as I can see the only way two teams can go above us on points is for both Carlow and Waterford to win all their remaining games.

Save for that happening and Offaly were to finish on 9 points - we’d likely require score difference to finish above someone and get promoted. (We have the tiebreaker over Dublin but if we’re on 9 points then Waterford have the tiebreaker over us)
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Wing Back wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:24 pm
Just out of curiosity what results are needed now for promotion? If we beat Westmeath and lose to waterford, we need Dublin to beat Carlow. This leaves us and carlow level. With result between waterfotd and Dublin deciding who tops league table. Are we expecting to blitz carlow on the score difference or what? As that is not a given either. Maybe someone can shed some light on it.

I do understand the simple approach is to beat the deise, but that is easier said than done, and carlow have already put them on red alert. So I'm thinking my 1st scenario is more likely at this point.
If Waterford lose to Dublin, they're as good as goosed. It would help Offaly if Waterford have nothing to play for in the last round.
Like you said Carlow are highly likely to finish on 9 points also, probably losing to Dublin.

I'd say the table will finish
Dublin 10pts
Offaly 9pts
Carlow 9pts (worse scoring difference)
Waterford 8 points.

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private joker wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:05 pm One or two people might be getting a little carried away. Offaly will do very well to beat Waterford as they showed today in hammering antrim in Belfast which is a tricky venue. Waterford are getting their squad back now as are wexford who bet clare in clare. Dublin in parnell will show exactly where this team is. Antrim seem to have fallen apart since Davy took over.
don't think we are getting carried away at all after year's in the doledrums its nice to have a good young hurling team that are winning matche's and we now have a good bunch of young good hurler's on the up. why shouldn't we not be confident of getting a win again waterford we have the hurler's to compete with them.

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Bord na Mona man wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:12 pm
Wing Back wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 10:24 pm
Just out of curiosity what results are needed now for promotion? If we beat Westmeath and lose to waterford, we need Dublin to beat Carlow. This leaves us and carlow level. With result between waterfotd and Dublin deciding who tops league table. Are we expecting to blitz carlow on the score difference or what? As that is not a given either. Maybe someone can shed some light on it.

I do understand the simple approach is to beat the deise, but that is easier said than done, and carlow have already put them on red alert. So I'm thinking my 1st scenario is more likely at this point.
If Waterford lose to Dublin, they're as good as goosed. It would help Offaly if Waterford have nothing to play for in the last round.
Like you said Carlow are highly likely to finish on 9 points also, probably losing to Dublin.

I'd say the table will finish
Dublin 10pts
Offaly 9pts
Carlow 9pts (worse scoring difference)
Waterford 8 points.

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The canary in the coal mine could be Dublin and Waterford drawing leaving all 4 teams on 9 points.

Dublin and Waterford probably do us on score difference.

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It's simple, concentrate on our game and getting a performance for close to 70 minutes against Westmeath and that should get us to 9 points, plus try to boost our score difference as much as possible. A winner either way in Dublin v Waterford suits us as both sides have a loss already. I can see either Laois or Antrim (assuming they're playing for survival) taking points somewhere off Carlow (who should have a worse score difference than us).

Private Joker must be having a horrid time now that we're progressing? A poison chalice getting promoted to the top flight? Sure we should focus on getting relegated in that case and just not bother!

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oneshot wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:31 pm
private joker wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:05 pm One or two people might be getting a little carried away. Offaly will do very well to beat Waterford as they showed today in hammering antrim in Belfast which is a tricky venue. Waterford are getting their squad back now as are wexford who bet clare in clare. Dublin in parnell will show exactly where this team is. Antrim seem to have fallen apart since Davy took over.
don't think we are getting carried away at all after year's in the doledrums its nice to have a good young hurling team that are winning matche's and we now have a good bunch of young good hurler's on the up. why shouldn't we not be confident of getting a win again waterford we have the hurler's to compete with them.
Well , lads talking about winning leinsters and all irelands is getting carried away. At the end of the day, it's the league, leagues are for playing, championship s are for winning.
Only a few weeks ago and offaly drew with carlow.
Waterford will be another big test to see where this team is at?

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Glendassaun wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:06 am It's simple, concentrate on our game and getting a performance for close to 70 minutes against Westmeath and that should get us to 9 points, plus try to boost our score difference as much as possible. A winner either way in Dublin v Waterford suits us as both sides have a loss already. I can see either Laois or Antrim (assuming they're playing for survival) taking points somewhere off Carlow (who should have a worse score difference than us).

Private Joker must be having a horrid time now that we're progressing? A poison chalice getting promoted to the top flight? Sure we should focus on getting relegated in that case and just not bother!
Yeah if people want something to route for over the coming weeks the easiest is for Dublin to win out and Carlow to drop points somewhere other than Dublin.

So route for Dublin and against Carlow…

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It turns out we're only 1 point away from promotion now :shock:

https://x.com/TheSundayGame/status/1893787517393985998

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Bord na Mona man wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:17 am It turns out we're only 1 point away from promotion now :shock:

https://x.com/TheSundayGame/status/1893787517393985998
I’d like to see her workings out.

Is that contingent on this asteroid due to hit earth in a couple of years landing early and cancelling the rest of the fixtures?

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Just to touch on the refereeing debate. Offaly did get a couple of frees for thrown passes, where other refs may not have bothered, but by no stretch did the referee rob Dublin, of give Offaly 'everything' as some loons on social media claim.
These calls were surely balanced out by Hayes reaching down and scooping the sliotar off the grass before scoring Dublin's goal.

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Glendassaun wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:06 am It's simple, concentrate on our game and getting a performance for close to 70 minutes against Westmeath and that should get us to 9 points, plus try to boost our score difference as much as possible. A winner either way in Dublin v Waterford suits us as both sides have a loss already. I can see either Laois or Antrim (assuming they're playing for survival) taking points somewhere off Carlow (who should have a worse score difference than us).

Private Joker must be having a horrid time now that we're progressing? A poison chalice getting promoted to the top flight? Sure we should focus on getting relegated in that case and just not bother!
The difference in two divisions is huge. The pace, skill everything is so much faster. Yeah , you want to get promoted, but your coming straight back down and on the receiving end of some big bateing s.
And, that "throw" at the end , won't be given come championship.

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private joker wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:41 am
Glendassaun wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:06 am It's simple, concentrate on our game and getting a performance for close to 70 minutes against Westmeath and that should get us to 9 points, plus try to boost our score difference as much as possible. A winner either way in Dublin v Waterford suits us as both sides have a loss already. I can see either Laois or Antrim (assuming they're playing for survival) taking points somewhere off Carlow (who should have a worse score difference than us).

Private Joker must be having a horrid time now that we're progressing? A poison chalice getting promoted to the top flight? Sure we should focus on getting relegated in that case and just not bother!
The difference in two divisions is huge. The pace, skill everything is so much faster. Yeah , you want to get promoted, but your coming straight back down and on the receiving end of some big bateing s.
And, that "throw" at the end , won't be given come championship.
We have to play Kilkenny, Galway and Wexico in Leinster anyway.

And I’d rather have a cut off a few experimental Munster teams in the league than the championship so I’m not sure what there’s to fear.

Worst that can happen is we go back to 1B.

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Bord na Mona man wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:17 am It turns out we're only 1 point away from promotion now :shock:

https://x.com/TheSundayGame/status/1893787517393985998
RTE has been the home of misinformation for many years now.

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