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Toxicity234 wrote:Team name for sunday.

James Dempsey.
Niall Wynne
Chris Mc Donald.
Paddy Rigney
Pat Camon
Conor Doughan
Sean Gardiner
Shane Kinsella
Dermot Shortt
Sean Ryan
Colin Egan
Paddy Murphy
Shane Dooley
Joseph Bergin
James Mulrooney.

SearingDrive wrote:

Toxicity234 wrote:Team name for sunday.

James Dempsey.
Niall Wynne
Chris Mc Donald.
Paddy Rigney
Pat Camon
Conor Doughan
Sean Gardiner
Shane Kinsella
Dermot Shortt
Sean Ryan
Colin Egan
Paddy Murphy
Shane Dooley
Joseph Bergin
James Mulrooney.

Why does it take so long to announce team selections? Offaly seem to operate like the Third Secret of Fatima, (known to a select few, never to be released) when it comes to announcing teams for league and championship.

Other counties can release their teams in advance of fixtures,why not Offaly?

Kevin wrote: Fully appreciate the question and I certainly cannot provide insight.

The situation begs another question - sort of pushing this in another direction:

What benefit does Offaly derive from releasing the team early or ever?

Plain of the Herbs wrote:Hi Kevin,

I don't see a benefit to the team to announce the lineup publicly before the match. Someone else may beg to differ.

Any advantage may accrue to supporters. For instance, that Seán Gardiner is starting would persuade a few from Lusmagh to go that mightn't otherwise go. Ditto for someone from Cloghan. A decade ago, when Joseph Bergin was in his debut season, a sizeable number from Clareen were present.

Thing is that so few teams line out as selected now. A fortnight ago both Offaly (1) and Leix (2) made changes. Both Leixmen who were 'deposed' eventually came on. I watched Kilkenny v Tipperary on the video later in the week - both made changes, as did Wexford (v Clare) though Clare, unusually for them, did line out from 1 to 15. Waterford use squad numbers with Maurice Shanahan favouring number 21.

Making changes to teams was first practiced by Kevin Heffernan's Dubs around 1980 and was brought to a whole new level by Loughnane's Clare in the 1990s. It is often used as a ruse by team selectors to 'cod' the opposition. But now nobody believes an announced lineup now, and I don't see the point of a grand announcement.

Kevin wrote:
Thx POTH. I get it.
Fully appreciate the question and I certainly cannot provide insight.

The situation begs another question - sort of pushing this in another direction:

What benefit does Offaly derive from releasing the team early or ever?

Kevin wrote:

Plain of the Herbs wrote:Hi Kevin,

I don't see a benefit to the team to announce the lineup publicly before the match. Someone else may beg to differ.

Any advantage may accrue to supporters. For instance, that Seán Gardiner is starting would persuade a few from Lusmagh to go that mightn't otherwise go. Ditto for someone from Cloghan. A decade ago, when Joseph Bergin was in his debut season, a sizeable number from Clareen were present.

Thing is that so few teams line out as selected now. A fortnight ago both Offaly (1) and Leix (2) made changes. Both Leixmen who were 'deposed' eventually came on. I watched Kilkenny v Tipperary on the video later in the week - both made changes, as did Wexford (v Clare) though Clare, unusually for them, did line out from 1 to 15. Waterford use squad numbers with Maurice Shanahan favouring number 21.

Making changes to teams was first practiced by Kevin Heffernan's Dubs around 1980 and was brought to a whole new level by Loughnane's Clare in the 1990s. It is often used as a ruse by team selectors to 'cod' the opposition. But now nobody believes an announced lineup now, and I don't see the point of a grand announcement.

Kevin wrote:
Thx POTH. I get it.
Fully appreciate the question and I certainly cannot provide insight.

The situation begs another question - sort of pushing this in another direction:

What benefit does Offaly derive from releasing the team early or ever?

sam88885a wrote:Strange game , we never really hurled and gifted limerick a goal with a pass across our own square , then had a goal dissallowed for a free in the build up when the ref seen to have allowed advantage and then j gorman missed a good goal chance at the end . s hickey also appeared to strike an offaly lads off the ball and was lucky not to get a red card .
S dooley had a off day ,i think he missed 4 free in a row in the second half .
limerick were deserved winners but really both were poor today . both worked hard but lacked quality .
i Wonder did e kelly make too many changes from the last day ???
terrible offaly support ,

Plain of the Herbs wrote:Hi Kevin,

I don't see a benefit to the team to announce the lineup publicly before the match. Someone else may beg to differ.

Any advantage may accrue to supporters. For instance, that Seán Gardiner is starting would persuade a few from Lusmagh to go that mightn't otherwise go. Ditto for someone from Cloghan. A decade ago, when Joseph Bergin was in his debut season, a sizeable number from Clareen were present.

Thing is that so few teams line out as selected now. A fortnight ago both Offaly (1) and Leix (2) made changes. Both Leixmen who were 'deposed' eventually came on. I watched Kilkenny v Tipperary on the video later in the week - both made changes, as did Wexford (v Clare) though Clare, unusually for them, did line out from 1 to 15. Waterford use squad numbers with Maurice Shanahan favouring number 21.

Making changes to teams was first practiced by Kevin Heffernan's Dubs around 1980 and was brought to a whole new level by Loughnane's Clare in the 1990s. It is often used as a ruse by team selectors to 'cod' the opposition. But now nobody believes an announced lineup now, and I don't see the point of a grand announcement.

Kevin wrote: Fully appreciate the question and I certainly cannot provide insight.

The situation begs another question - sort of pushing this in another direction:

What benefit does Offaly derive from releasing the team early or ever?

Sharp Eye wrote:
It is Vital for both the players involved and their clubs that all players who are not part of the 26 match panel should be released to their clubs for the weekend in order to allow these players an opportunity of actual game time. Offaly panels should be released by Thursday at 10pm in order to allow club managers the opportunity to arrange suitable challenge games in the event of no club league games being arranged for the weekend.