Offaly v Westmeath MHC Q/F

[southoffaly]

well wazzaman we genuine hurling people are sick of football people talking rubbish about that kip of a football ground in tullamore . and thats what it is , going to tullamore to hurl we may as well go to mullingar or portlaois . as a former county hurlers who won all irelands for us have all said it aint the capital of the hurling area of offaly make some football matches play over here and ye wouldnt be long change your tune .no athmosphere in that kip and the soul of hurling has been ripped out out of offaly . 20 years ago we all said too much interference from football people making decisions and voting in people at county board level who dont have the best interest of hurling , its all politics , and they still at it ,
every former and present hurler wants back where it belongs , but sure ye football clowns wouldnt understand , ye just dont have a bloody clue
STICK TO YOUR FOOTBALL

[Bord na Mona man]

Ah shure we'll be grand.
Shure Westmeath won't win the All Ireland, so there is nothing we could learn about how they improved themselves.

If it was played in Birr, we would have won.
Nothing to see here folks, still a great little county.
Drive it, pull on it, get rid of it.

[Bord na Mona man]

well wazzaman we genuine hurling people are sick of football people talking rubbish about that kip of a football ground in tullamore . and thats what it is , going to tullamore to hurl we may as well go to mullingar or portlaois . as a former county hurlers who won all irelands for us have all said it aint the capital of the hurling area of offaly make some football matches play over here and ye wouldnt be long change your tune .no athmosphere in that kip and the soul of hurling has been ripped out out of offaly . 20 years ago we all said too much interference from football people making decisions and voting in people at county board level who dont have the best interest of hurling , its all politics , and they still at it ,
every former and present hurler wants back where it belongs , but sure ye football clowns wouldnt understand , ye just dont have a bloody clue
STICK TO YOUR FOOTBALL

So a field of grass is the reason why we used to beat Kilkenny minors 20 years ago and nowadays are a warm up match for the Westmeath minors.

[southoffaly]

good man , you just proved my point ye football boyos dont get it .the soul and passion ripped out of offaly hurling over the last number of years . go talk to the county hurlers ( plus the hurling clubs )and former players ( with all ireland medals i might add ) and they will give you your answer THEY ARE THE ONES THAT COUNT . your reply goes to prove you havent a clue
BTY THE WAY THAT TRAINING PITCH YOU REFER TO PRODUCED MORE ALL IRELAND MEDALS THAN THAT FOOTBALL KIP IN TULLAMORE . come over some time and i show what one looks like .
we all know we wont see glory back in offaly for a long time ,but this HORSESH1TE coming from the football area about tullamore is getting tireing and ye just dont have a clue .

[walshisland]

Final Score
Westmeath 1-14 Offaly 0-9

Totally Outclassed by westmeath.

not many positives to take from the game.
Cillian Kiely looks a decent hurler, like to see more of him down the line.

Never looked like winning this at any stage.

must have being outnumberd 3/1

[faithfullad]

Think you're lost, you belong here http://www.hoganstand.com/Offaly/forumpage.aspx

[Bord na Mona man]

good man , you just proved my point ye football boyos dont get it .the soul and passion ripped out of offaly hurling over the last number of years . go talk to the county hurlers ( plus the hurling clubs )and former players ( with all ireland medals i might add ) and they will give you your answer THEY ARE THE ONES THAT COUNT . your reply goes to prove you havent a clue
BTY THE WAY THAT TRAINING PITCH YOU REFER TO PRODUCED MORE ALL IRELAND MEDALS THAN THAT FOOTBALL KIP IN TULLAMORE . come over some time and i show what one looks like .
we all know we wont see glory back in offaly for a long time ,but this HORSESH1TE coming from the football area about tullamore is getting tireing and ye just dont have a clue .

What are you trying to say?
Its all down to the pitch, is it?

[old yellar]

Southoffaly, what has a venue got to do with the game?! Most of these lads have done more hurling in important games in tullamore at this stage than birr. It wouldn't enter their heads about it, so to me it's a non issue. On your point about listening to lads with medals in their pockets, well, all I can say there is wow! Some of them are great hurling men, some are men blessed with great hurling talent. But leading a county forward has more to it than that. If you buy into all that idea of tradition, well why not relaunch the idea of ground hurling (as advocated by johnny Flaherty), make sure you get in an outside manager (past victories would indicate this), and let the lads smoke 20 a day! Times have moved on, and so sometimes does the mindset have too. Hurling styles have changed. Look at cork. Late 80s early 90s, big string men like foley, Fitzgibbon Hennessey mulcahy in the forwards. Horse the ball in high, and win it. Late 90s, Joe Deane at 14. Low short ball, hold possession and control the game. This is now what we think of when cork hurling is discussed. 10 years changed things. That's what ye need. Embrace a bit of change. Counties such as my own, Westmeath, Dublin and Laois have in recent years had serious looks at where we are in hurling terms. Now I don't think any of us will be dusting down the tuxedoS for the medal presentations, we are making progress of sorts. If you are happy about where Offaly hurling is, well fair enough, if not well do something about it.

[DAF]

Offaly hurling will go nowhere if the choice of venue is being blamed for the lack of success at underage level Offaly have been poor at underage level for the last 10 years and alot of those games would have been played in Birr, perhaps if there was abetter effort at coaching youngsters made it might change things rather than changing the venue Offaly play their matches in.Considering the county board chairman is from Coolderry it would be a bit stupid to suggest that there was some sort of anti South Offaly bias in the county board.The one trade mark of Offaly hurling in the good days was excellent stick work having been at a fair few matches over the last couple of years our stickwork is very poor compared to the top counties and this decline in skills suggests a lack of good coaching.

The truth of the matter is that Offalys success in both codes in the 70's 80s and 90's was a freak occurence and we are now reverting back to the tradition of Offaly being mediocre at both codes which has been much more the case throughout the GAA's history than Offaly being any good.Winning the 7 senior All Irelands was a great achievment but this level of success was never likely to last due to the small size of the county we are the only county in the bottom 10 in terms of population to win an all ireland in either code in the last 40 years and now we are reverting back to the norm for counties of our size.

[Phoenix]

On the credit side Alan Kelly of Lusmagh got through a lot of good work around midfield, especially in the 2nd half. Not much else good to report! I believe Cillian Kiely (K/K) and Sean Gardner (Lusmagh) are very young so they may well come to the fore next year and beyond. Some of the other backs worked hard also. A couple of the forwards looked like they might have something to offer another day. That's about it as far as good news.

As usual nearly all of the Offaly players couldn't catch a ball to save their lives. When will our coaches learn that we have to get the sliotar into our hands to play in the modern game. Waving a stick at the ball in the air just doesn't cut it any more. Players must be good at catching in the air and lifting the sliotar first time off the ground quickly into the hand.

[joe bloggs]

On the result as i said earlier in the week wouldn't be surprised to see Westmeath win.

Longterm a full review needs to be done to bring up the standards in Ofally hurling.
Perhaps an Offaly colleges team is needed to have everyone competing at the highest grade through the winter, also it would link in with the county minor set up. this is part of what dublin did.

With regards the venue (and i'm not syaing it would have changed last nights result) the hurling should be brought back to Birr. It will always be the base for hurling in the county one way or another.

[Plain of the Herbs]

Remember a band of torrential rain crossed the country from west to east late yesterday evening, passing west Offaly at about 5.30pm. I heard club matches scheduled for Loughrea and Athenry were called off. It’s possible that if the match was fixed for Birr it would have had to be moved to Tullamore anyway.

What are you trying to say?
Its all down to the pitch, is it?

[manfromdelmonte]

http://www.hoganstand.com/forum/Message ... icID=64374

Is this true?
bad sportmanship if young lads are resorting to breaking opponents hurleys deliberately and I wouldn't want anyone wearing an Offaly shirt to resort to such behaviour

[townman]

it seems that on this site when the hurlers lose at any grade they are ran into the ground bye lads from their profile from football area
but when the footballers lose like last saturday the minor footballers kick out of tullamore bye kildare or the under 21's bet well bye westmeath
its brush under the carpet.

as for why offaly hurling games should be put back to st, brendans park if your from the football strong hold ye won't understand simple as.

[the bare biffo]

it seems that on this site when the hurlers lose at any grade they are ran into the ground bye lads from their profile from football area
but when the footballers lose like last saturday the minor footballers kick out of tullamore bye kildare or the under 21's bet well bye westmeath
its brush under the carpet.

as for why offaly hurling games should be put back to st, brendans park if your from the football strong hold ye won't understand simple as.

Several times now I've seen this statement that peopole from the "football are" don't understand.
Can you please then explain it in clear intelligent language to help evryone out here.
Thanks.