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Lone Shark wrote:Don't even know what the criteria is for entering that competition, or why Brosna Gaels weren't allowed, but given that they were good enough to beat the Dublin winners Castleknock (albeit very surprise winners of the Dublin JHC) you'd assume they'd be good enough for Park Ratheniska next week. Won't claim to know the formlines too well though.

Castleknock were beaten semi-finalists in Dublin (albeit by Faughs were loaded with regraded senior players), but the other 3 semi finalists were ineligible to compete in Leinster, so Castleknock got the nod.

Aha - I was wondering why a team who only won two out of five group games got into this competition (hence my surprise). I suppose I should have made the link to be honest - Scoil Uí Chonaill were only JFC quarter Finalists as far as I know and they were still the last genuinely junior club standing at that stage.

Still any ideas as to why Brosna Gaels were not eligible for this?

Lone Shark wrote:Still any ideas as to why Brosna Gaels were not eligible for this?

Basically they are seen as a divisional side because they have one player from Tubber which is outside the Doon/Ballycumber/Pullagh parish. Similar to the Div sides in Kerry etc. not being allowed into the All Ireland series. If they didn't have the Tubber player then they'd be OK to go forward.

Seems like a Mickey Mouse tournament then this SJHC? Fair play though, its an Offaly side in a Leinster final, are they any good?

Funny how picking from two parishes didn't matter for Salthill-Knocknacarra when they won the All Ireland. God knows they even cast the net a lot wider than that. Unless there's different rules for this SJHC than there is for senior?

Don't know, all I know is that's the excuse Brosna Gaels were given.

Calthill Knock were a club though in their own right, the Club Cships dont allow any amagamations.

bigfatgoalie wrote:Calthill Knock were a club though in their own right, the Club Cships dont allow any amagamations.

And what hurling clubs were Brosna Gaels an amalgamation of?

I'm not having a pop, I just don't get it is all.

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Aren't Brosna Gaels a Ballycumber/Doon/Tubber and someone else combination? Pretty sure that the parishes have nothign to do with it, it's the fact that they're a group team that precludes them from the championship.

It's Ballycumber parish plus Tubber. The point is that surely they are a separate hurling club in their own right, rather than a amalgamation of football clubs.

Put it another way - would St. Rynagh's have been ineligible to enter the All Ireland club championship if they won Offaly, since they had a couple of Lusmagh players on the panel? By the logic shown above St. Rynagh's Football club is an amalgamation of St. Rynagh's hurling club and Lusmagh hurling club.

Lone Shark wrote:It's Ballycumber parish plus Tubber. The point is that surely they are a separate hurling club in their own right, rather than a amalgamation of football clubs.

Put it another way - would St. Rynagh's have been ineligible to enter the All Ireland club championship if they won Offaly, since they had a couple of Lusmagh players on the panel? By the logic shown above St. Rynagh's Football club is an amalgamation of St. Rynagh's hurling club and Lusmagh hurling club.

Actually yeah, the enforcement of the rule about permission players playing only with exclusive clubs would surely mean that BG have to be a separate club rather than a group team. I'm equally confused now.

You've got me anyway. I assumed Salthill Knock wouldnt count as there was no other Clubs involved, ie they may have been named S-K but there was no S or no K anymore on their own, but now there seems to be a can open withworms everywhere....

Camorss/Ballyboden could be interesting.

Last time I remember a lot of hype about a Dublin club side was in 1996 when O'Tooles with Eamon Morrissey & Shinner Brennan got to the Leinster FInal and went in as hot favourites. Camross overturned them.

Interesting to note that the 4 teams left in Munster, Tulla, Ballyduff, Adare & Loughmore, none of them have won a provincial championship before.

Lone Shark wrote:
Talk all you want about Henry and Cha being out injured, there really is nothing between Ballyhale and an All Ireland Final now.

Well?????