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Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:16 pm
by Dodge83
Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:14 pm
Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:51 am
Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:25 am
Would depend on whether they hurled in Offaly or Tipp.
Well that’s a stupid response
Good fun at parties you.
Did you ever think of becoming a comedian??
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:38 pm
by Anonymous1
Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:16 pm
Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:14 pm
Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:51 am
Well that’s a stupid response
Good fun at parties you.
Did you ever think of becoming a comedian??
Would depend on whether I lived in Offaly or Tipp.
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:15 pm
by G91
Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 09, 2025 11:26 pm
Kinnitty will certainly feel hard done by this evening. Some of the decisions were curious to say the least. Smash and grab from Belmont who’ve had quite the turnaround from last season but it’s hard to see them going too far in the knockout stages.
KK-Rynaghs was a bit of a non-event. Meandered along without any realistic possibility of Rynaghs winning. I thought they turned in a very disappointing display for what was a knockout game from their perspective. A long spell in the darkness awaits.
As for KK they still aren’t humming the way they were this time last year, if they do go on to win out Offaly I’m not sure I can see them going any further in Leinster than they did last year which would have been the goal at the beginning of the year.
What decisions were questionable?
I thought overall the referee was poor , kinitty sideline seem to dictate what was a free and what wasn’t
There was a point not given when the umpire waved it but because kinitty sideline started to roar and shout
The ref decided to consult with the linesman
on top of that it one of the kinitty management team were making there way over to make his opinion heard directly to the umpire
And you can say the opposite too…kinitty got a goal potential free in the build up not given until after they hit the net then the ref consulted the umpires so he pulled it back for a Belmont free
He was right up with play at that time
I thought he was poor for both sides
The second game the ref stop play out of nowhere to give a yellow for dissent then he didn’t know what to do with the play after that
It surely should have been an indirect free for Kk but he gave a throw in but definitely wasn’t sure on what he was doing , he let his frustrations get the better of him
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 2:37 pm
by Anonymous1
G91 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:15 pm
Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 09, 2025 11:26 pm
Kinnitty will certainly feel hard done by this evening. Some of the decisions were curious to say the least. Smash and grab from Belmont who’ve had quite the turnaround from last season but it’s hard to see them going too far in the knockout stages.
KK-Rynaghs was a bit of a non-event. Meandered along without any realistic possibility of Rynaghs winning. I thought they turned in a very disappointing display for what was a knockout game from their perspective. A long spell in the darkness awaits.
As for KK they still aren’t humming the way they were this time last year, if they do go on to win out Offaly I’m not sure I can see them going any further in Leinster than they did last year which would have been the goal at the beginning of the year.
What decisions were questionable?
I thought overall the referee was poor , kinitty sideline seem to dictate what was a free and what wasn’t
There was a point not given when the umpire waved it but because kinitty sideline started to roar and shout
The ref decided to consult with the linesman
on top of that it one of the kinitty management team were making there way over to make his opinion heard directly to the umpire
And you can say the opposite too…kinitty got a goal potential free in the build up not given until after they hit the net then the ref consulted the umpires so he pulled it back for a Belmont free
He was right up with play at that time
I thought he was poor for both sides
The second game the ref stop play out of nowhere to give a yellow for dissent then he didn’t know what to do with the play after that
It surely should have been an indirect free for Kk but he gave a throw in but definitely wasn’t sure on what he was doing , he let his frustrations get the better of him
I had a good angle of the “point not given” and it was clearly wide.
It was actually the opposite to what you describe. The Belmont crowd applauded to make it seem as if it was a score but David Nally who hit the free didn’t protest because he knew it was wide.
I still don’t understand what he ruled out the Kinnitty goal for. He had a perfect view of the situation as you say but then went to consult with an umpire. I didn’t see any foul in the build up.
Belmont supporters beside me were in agreement that they got away with one there.
I also think there should have been a good few more yellow cards for both sides but he was more interested in giving lads a lecture.
And what’s the idea of continuously throwing the ball in to a heap over and over again? It led directly to the Belmont goal.
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:54 pm
by Dodge83
If ye are such experts why don’t ye go out and become referees??
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 9:56 pm
by Anonymous1
Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:54 pm
If ye are such experts why don’t ye go out and become referees??
In Tipp?
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:01 pm
by greenairfield
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:15 pm
by private joker
Can't believe the comments about ref. He was fine and was equal towards both teams. The point was wide, I was in line with it. As was the linsman who called it. The kinnitty goal that was ruled out was in the lead up to the goal kinnitty player pulled through on the ball and caught the Belmont player on the helmet. Umpire called ref to it and it was rightly disallowed. Ref got decision wrong which is normal. Also got a lot right. I have no affiliation to ref or either club.
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:46 pm
by G91
Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:54 pm
If ye are such experts why don’t ye go out and become referees??
But sure i did just because im not on the pitch ?
Everyone knows the best refss are in the terrace or stand
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 12:02 am
by Fairplayalways
must be barred..2 lines of comment about weekend games never made it on..not the first time..good luck all..
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 12:03 am
by Fairplayalways
be God this one did...moderator must be celebrating the camogie..
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:27 am
by Anonymous1
private joker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 10, 2025 10:15 pm
Can't believe the comments about ref. He was fine and was equal towards both teams. The point was wide, I was in line with it. As was the linsman who called it. The kinnitty goal that was ruled out was in the lead up to the goal kinnitty player pulled through on the ball and caught the Belmont player on the helmet. Umpire called ref to it and it was rightly disallowed. Ref got decision wrong which is normal. Also got a lot right. I have no affiliation to ref or either club.
Are we supposed to praise the referee after every game like the local media does even when everybody knows they had a poor game? North Korea style?
Do you get to many games yourself? Because if you did you’d hear 10x the abuse being levelled from the stands as you read on here.
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 3:39 am
by Lone Shark
This shouldn't need to be said, but I'll say it anyway.
Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:27 am
Do you get to many games yourself?
Because if you did you’d hear 10x the abuse being levelled from the stands as you read on here.
Any level of abuse, or personal commentary, about referees, players, volunteers or anyone is too much, and won't be tolerated on uibhfhaili.com. The fact that worse might happen elsewhere is not what matters; in this house, we keep our own standards.
That being said, discussion about a particular decision in a game is perfectly reasonable. Forwards hit wides, goalkeepers let the ball slip through their fingers, defenders get caught the wrong side, anyone can make a mistake, and referees are no exception.
So discussing red cards, frees, black cards, an approach to overcarrying, goals awarded and disallowed or anything like that, is fine. Saying you believe a referee had a good game or a bad game is fine. I would even go so far as to say that a referee is the right or wrong person to be allocated to a certain game is fine, as long as it's based on publicly known facts, and not perceptions of bias. So to use myself as an example in order to avoid controversy, I'm a Ferbane native but I'm now a member of the St. Aidan's club. My wife and all her family are from St. Brigid's so it's not unreasonable to say that if I was a referee, I shouldn't referee St. Brigid's games. Likewise, I clearly shouldn't referee a game where one of the teams is playing St. Aidan's next, and if I have cause to consider showing a red card, it'll be perceived as bias if I go ahead with it and a player gets suspended.
Where it crosses the line is when it goes into saying that a referee is no good and shouldn't get any games at a certain level, or to say that a referee has a bias AGAINST a club because he doesn't like them etc., or (as in this case) saying that a referee shouldn't be put in charge of games involving a certain club because of something that happened before. That's personal, it's not on, and it's grossly unfair on any referee to put it out there.
And most of all, anything that certain gobshites might shout from a terrace at a referee at a game doesn't move the dial on that front at all.
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 9:14 am
by FlyOnTheWall
Lone Shark wrote: ↑Mon Aug 11, 2025 3:39 am
This shouldn't need to be said, but I'll say it anyway.
Anonymous1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:27 am
Do you get to many games yourself?
Because if you did you’d hear 10x the abuse being levelled from the stands as you read on here.
Any level of abuse, or personal commentary, about referees, players, volunteers or anyone is too much, and won't be tolerated on uibhfhaili.com. The fact that worse might happen elsewhere is not what matters; in this house, we keep our own standards.
That being said, discussion about a particular decision in a game is perfectly reasonable. Forwards hit wides, goalkeepers let the ball slip through their fingers, defenders get caught the wrong side, anyone can make a mistake, and referees are no exception.
So discussing red cards, frees, black cards, an approach to overcarrying, goals awarded and disallowed or anything like that, is fine. Saying you believe a referee had a good game or a bad game is fine. I would even go so far as to say that a referee is the right or wrong person to be allocated to a certain game is fine, as long as it's based on publicly known facts, and not perceptions of bias. So to use myself as an example in order to avoid controversy, I'm a Ferbane native but I'm now a member of the St. Aidan's club. My wife and all her family are from St. Brigid's so it's not unreasonable to say that if I was a referee, I shouldn't referee St. Brigid's games. Likewise, I clearly shouldn't referee a game where one of the teams is playing St. Aidan's next, and if I have cause to consider showing a red card, it'll be perceived as bias if I go ahead with it and a player gets suspended.
Where it crosses the line is when it goes into saying that a referee is no good and shouldn't get any games at a certain level, or to say that a referee has a bias AGAINST a club because he doesn't like them etc., or (as in this case) saying that a referee shouldn't be put in charge of games involving a certain club because of something that happened before. That's personal, it's not on, and it's grossly unfair on any referee to put it out there.
And most of all, anything that certain gobshites might shout from a terrace at a referee at a game doesn't move the dial on that front at all.
I hate abuse of referees as much as the next man but if there’s one thing I hate more it’s the stifling of free speech.
I may hate everything you want to say but I’ll sure as hell defend your right to say it.
Personal abuse crosses a line but discussion of a referee’s performance should never be off limits.
As you said, referees make mistakes and when they do they deserve to be critiqued.
It feels like I’m in a parallel universe at times when I go to a game, see a howler from a ref and then read a report which says “X had a great game and there were no issues”
If you can’t handle a slight bit of criticism of your performance then I don’t think you’re cut out for a public facing role because as was said above some yob will roar something from the stands and we mightn’t like it but the referee needs a thick neck to deal with it.
Re: Offaly Club Hurling Championship 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 10:13 am
by private joker
But it's not criticism, lads giving out about not giving a point when it was clearly wide. Lads giving out for a goal been disallowed for a pull across the head. Any form of abuse is wrong and should not happen. Would You do that to a work colleague, random person on the street?. People do realise that there is an incredible shortage of refs in the county and country wide?. If a player makes mistakes, he's not told he should never play again.