Snotser123 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 24, 2026 2:43 pm
Its a very weak squad at the moment , it's hard to expect them to stay up.winnin the tailteann could come down to beating westmeath or down for example in a final and I wouldn't write off management if we didn't happen to beat either of those in a one off game...the realities is getting promoted and beating Kildare in a final in croke Park last year was a phenomenal achievement and we are ravaged by injuries at the moment ...absolutely ravaged ...so every one needs to relax on calling for people's heads of certain standards aren't met
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It's a very weak squad for a reason. You'd have to wonder how so many are out injured with non contact injuries. There are a large number of them injuries down to inner groin injuries which is totally preventable by simply not over-training! These are simple overuse injuries that are of own making which is a concern and some of them are going back a year or more before Harte's involvement. With the other couple of injuries, every squad will have 2 or 3 long terms from time to time.
For me, the depth of squad is compromised by the unwillingness of some lads not to play and the exclusion of others. Without going back over old arguments, would we be better served and going into tomorrows game with some semblance of confidence if we had some of the likes of Cian Farrell, Ruairi Mac, Aaron Kellaghan, Anton Sullivan, Bill Carroll, Jack O'Brien, Kevin McDermott, Bernard Allen available and on board? Would the squad be a stronger squad with likes of OK Martin, Morgan Tynan, Adam Bolger, D Finneran? Where is Cian Johnson and Aidan Bracken? Luke Plunkett is surely an option for consideration on panel at least? That is a depth pool of 15 players not involved that excludes the 6 or 7 injured lads in Hyland, Furlong, Dunican, Tierney, Higgins and Flynn among others who would all be eligible for championship starting places. That is 21 players deep that we can ill afford to ignore in my opinion. So if we are choosing to either ignore that volume, or whether they choose to not be involved or whether overuse injuries are responsible for some not being available, there has to be some form of accountability for this with management team.
This is year 3 for Declan Kelly and Year 2 for Harte. If you were told that you'd have 3 years as a manager starting out to get us into Sam Maguire competition, and that if you did not succeed in that time, then your time would be up, I think that that would have been a very fair expectation and also very fair criteria for not being kept on. I don't think that changes. There are 3 opportunities still of doing that this year as mentioned above by staying in Div 2 or by reaching a Leinster Final or by winning Tailteann Cup. All should be genuine achievable targets for us again this year and I really hope that we can get there this year with our current management and wish them the very best.
However, we have to be both ambitious, realistic and honest about our recent progress. Year 1 for DK was disastrous under any criteria. Last year with Harte joining the ticket, there was a major improvement and we got back to a level we were at under Maughan and Kearns - and nabbed 2nd in Div 3 to get promotion. This year is a year where we need to see the fruits of the last two years work and gain entry to Sam Maguire competition. Our U20 All Ireland success was 5 years ago now meaning that group should be in their prime now. There were decent minor and U20 teams either side of that U20 success so it is not like we are coming from a very low base. We are not looking for major inroads here - just to see some progress over a 3 year time frame. That is just getting us into top 16 in country - a very reasonable expectation across a 3 year period. Time for excuses is over in my opinion.
I just wonder Snotser, given outline on those listed above, how you think under any reasonable criteria, how it would be acceptable to extend a management's reign, should we not achieve this (Sam Maguire status) within the 3 year time frame, particularly as we were ranked probably between 18 and 20th best team in country when Martin Murphy / Liam Kearns regime was over. Remember that in 2023, we took Louth to extra time in Leinster semi final. 3 years to move 3 or 4 places up the rankings is not asking for a huge amount imo.