joe bloggs wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:10 pm
Clubs on Tipp getting an allocation, yet no word of clubs in Offaly.
As far as I know this internet thing has reached Tipperary too, so why the neef for Tipp clubs to get tickets and yet none here.
GUBU springs to mind. Was there ever an All Ireland before where the clubs of one county got tickets and clubs in the other didn't? The answer is no.
The county board need to clarify how this occurred, it's not good enough. They want club members to stump up and buy the county lotto tickets yet no sign of tickets being made available to clubs and their members. All the talk of how important the supporters are seems very hollow this evening
Just a guess but Tipp were probably well aware that if all tickets went on general sale Offaly fans would snap up 95% of them so I assume they requested an allocation to ensure at least 5k Tipp fans.
But that doesn’t add up either. It was open to Tipp to go on TM same as everyone. And let’s say they did and got the same amount from TM as us - then they’d have 5k extra than us.
I’m a club executive in my club and it’s been confirmed by county board that Offaly clubs won’t be getting any allocation.
It’s putting a very sour taste with a lot of genuine fans.
Still argue that croke park should have stepped in and said that while we appreciate we granted game to Nowlan park a number of months ago, in the interest of safety and general fairness to genuine GAA fans, we have to move game to a bigger stadium. And strike a deal to host an alternative game in Nowlan park - would Dublin hurlers agree to Leinster final there. 26000 capacity would cover it. Toss up with Laois and Offaly for a home/away Joe McDonagh final.
joe bloggs wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:10 pm
Clubs on Tipp getting an allocation, yet no word of clubs in Offaly.
As far as I know this internet thing has reached Tipperary too, so why the neef for Tipp clubs to get tickets and yet none here.
GUBU springs to mind. Was there ever an All Ireland before where the clubs of one county got tickets and clubs in the other didn't? The answer is no.
The county board need to clarify how this occurred, it's not good enough. They want club members to stump up and buy the county lotto tickets yet no sign of tickets being made available to clubs and their members. All the talk of how important the supporters are seems very hollow this evening
Just a guess but Tipp were probably well aware that if all tickets went on general sale Offaly fans would snap up 95% of them so I assume they requested an allocation to ensure at least 5k Tipp fans.
But that doesn’t add up either. It was open to Tipp to go on TM same as everyone. And let’s say they did and got the same amount from TM as us - then they’d have 5k extra than us.
I’m a club executive in my club and it’s been confirmed by county board that Offaly clubs won’t be getting any allocation.
It’s putting a very sour taste with a lot of genuine fans.
Still argue that croke park should have stepped in and said that while we appreciate we granted game to Nowlan park a number of months ago, in the interest of safety and general fairness to genuine GAA fans, we have to move game to a bigger stadium. And strike a deal to host an alternative game in Nowlan park - would Dublin hurlers agree to Leinster final there. 26000 capacity would cover it. Toss up with Laois and Offaly for a home/away Joe McDonagh final.
Except it does add up.
Offaly made a mistake in not requesting an allocation and allowing their tickets be thrown in with the general sale.
I’m a club executive in my club and it’s been confirmed by county board that Offaly clubs won’t be getting any allocation.
It’s putting a very sour taste with a lot of genuine fans.
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Im lucky enough to have gotten tickets but this is an absolute fucking joke from the county board - why on earth are they allowing a potential additional 5k Tipp fans more than us, this is potentially a massive factor in the game in terms of the 16th man.
I apologise in advance but what fucking dickhead thought this was a good idea??????
I suspect Offaly turned down a separate allocation for two reasons.
1 - They thought that TM would meet the demand. The match being at 7:15pm in theory should have dampened the attendance.
2 - It's 24 years since Offaly clubs had to ration an allocation of tickets. There is no longer muscle memory about how to go about this process. Avoiding this was the easier option.
Just a guess but Tipp were probably well aware that if all tickets went on general sale Offaly fans would snap up 95% of them so I assume they requested an allocation to ensure at least 5k Tipp fans.
But that doesn’t add up either. It was open to Tipp to go on TM same as everyone. And let’s say they did and got the same amount from TM as us - then they’d have 5k extra than us.
I’m a club executive in my club and it’s been confirmed by county board that Offaly clubs won’t be getting any allocation.
It’s putting a very sour taste with a lot of genuine fans.
Still argue that croke park should have stepped in and said that while we appreciate we granted game to Nowlan park a number of months ago, in the interest of safety and general fairness to genuine GAA fans, we have to move game to a bigger stadium. And strike a deal to host an alternative game in Nowlan park - would Dublin hurlers agree to Leinster final there. 26000 capacity would cover it. Toss up with Laois and Offaly for a home/away Joe McDonagh final.
Except it does add up.
Offaly made a mistake in not requesting an allocation and allowing their tickets be thrown in with the general sale.
Bord na Mona man wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:53 pm
I suspect Offaly turned down a separate allocation for two reasons.
1 - They thought that TM would meet the demand. The match being at 7:15pm in theory should have dampened the attendance.
2 - It's 24 years since Offaly clubs had to ration an allocation of tickets. There is no longer muscle memory about how to go about this process. Avoiding this was the easier option.
That's actually a great point , Tipperary would have had plenty of experience in recent years of playing that game when needed
Bord na Mona man wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:53 pm
I suspect Offaly turned down a separate allocation for two reasons.
1 - They thought that TM would meet the demand. The match being at 7:15pm in theory should have dampened the attendance.
2 - It's 24 years since Offaly clubs had to ration an allocation of tickets. There is no longer muscle memory about how to go about this process. Avoiding this was the easier option.
That's actually a great point , Tipperary would have had plenty of experience in recent years of playing that game when needed
But point 1 baffles me.
There’s been a snowball effect with this team.
Around 2k attended the Galway game, 4k the Laois game, 8k the Kilkenny game, 16k the Dublin game so if the pattern followed you were looking at circa 32k for this one.
Big boo-boo by the county board and an apology is probably required.
Yeah I don't know how you could turn around and say "unprecedented demand".
There was always going to be disappointed people (myself included but ill get over it, people with kids I'd gladly see go before me).
But has this just being a case of the country board just saying " nah we don't need the hassle of selling them in OCP the next few evenings or having to allocate to clubs and chase money etc" ,let Ticketmaster take care of selling tickets..
Bord na Mona man wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:53 pm
I suspect Offaly turned down a separate allocation for two reasons.
1 - They thought that TM would meet the demand. The match being at 7:15pm in theory should have dampened the attendance.
2 - It's 24 years since Offaly clubs had to ration an allocation of tickets. There is no longer muscle memory about how to go about this process. Avoiding this was the easier option.
Holy God if it's true that they turned down a seperate allocation to meet demand of club members then I don't really know what to say. It's incompetence of epic proportions. Between this and the full blown football crisis within the county you'd wonder whats going on at the top table these days? Have they thrown in the towel now that their 5 years will be up or whats going on?
Tipp go a few points ahead and it’s only Monday evening
So much for this Leinster venue being an advantage to Offaly. Looked like a “field” for bigger hurlers yday. Please god they roll it and the muck firms up on it before Saturday evening.
If only we had a county board officer with a national profile and friends in high places to get this game moved to croker
All this nonsense about tight provincial venues and their atmospheres
Get the match on in croke park and let the hurlers hurl
This problem began when it was decided to permit Nowlan Park to host the U20 final without knowing who would make the final. As soon as it became clear that Offaly would be in the final it should have been switched to either the Gaelic Grounds or Croke Park.
Not pushing for an allocation of tickets was a mistake, if that was the case, but I feel like somewhere along the line the wool has been pulled over our eyes. Thankfully I still believe that we’ll outnumber Tipperary fans, but the factor of that advantage will have been reduced.
I don’t buy this nonsense about the ticket demand being unprecedented. The dog on the street would have know that this year in particular, the demand for tickets from Offaly alone could have reached in excess of 25,000 without any other fans or neutrals wishing to attend.
Today has left a sour taste in the mouth of Offaly fans. Then again All Ireland Senior finals leave a sour taste in my mouth every year, when fans or, in their own minds, celebrities get tickets to the biggest games of the season despite having never attended a game previously.
The GAA has consistently mistreated it’s fans, especially hurling fans of late. They care more about immediate profiteering than the long term development of the game. In my opinion hurling is the greatest game in the world, but it’s being disregarded and undervalued by the organisation designated to promote it.
A people’s led GAA would immediately abandon Ticketmaster as a ticketing platform, with the GAA establishing its own platform. Fans would then receive points for every ticket they book throughout the year, allowing fans to build up points which gives them preference for tickets for finals. As things stand loyal fans are being disregarded and it’s simply inequitable.
Glendassaun wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 10:45 pm
This problem began when it was decided to permit Nowlan Park to host the U20 final without knowing who would make the final. As soon as it became clear that Offaly would be in the final it should have been switched to either the Gaelic Grounds or Croke Park.
Not pushing for an allocation of tickets was a mistake, if that was the case, but I feel like somewhere along the line the wool has been pulled over our eyes. Thankfully I still believe that we’ll outnumber Tipperary fans, but the factor of that advantage will have been reduced.
I don’t buy this nonsense about the ticket demand being unprecedented. The dog on the street would have know that this year in particular, the demand for tickets from Offaly alone could have reached in excess of 25,000 without any other fans or neutrals wishing to attend.
Today has left a sour taste in the mouth of Offaly fans. Then again All Ireland Senior finals leave a sour taste in my mouth every year, when fans or, in their own minds, celebrities get tickets to the biggest games of the season despite having never attended a game previously.
The GAA has consistently mistreated it’s fans, especially hurling fans of late. They care more about immediate profiteering than the long term development of the game. In my opinion hurling is the greatest game in the world, but it’s being disregarded and undervalued by the organisation designated to promote it.
A people’s led GAA would immediately abandon Ticketmaster as a ticketing platform, with the GAA establishing its own platform. Fans would then receive points for every ticket they book throughout the year, allowing fans to build up points which gives them preference for tickets for finals. As things stand loyal fans are being disregarded and it’s simply inequitable.
The net effect of not seeking an allocation means the proportion of Offaly to Tipp fans will likely be around 20,000:7,000 in a worst case scenario.
With an allocation it probably would’ve been closer to 22,000:5,000.
Not enormous in the grand scheme of things but I think the thing that’s grating on people is a large chunk of our 20,000 will be people who haven’t attended a game all year and those who have attended most if not all games will miss out.
LoneShark did say this would happen last Wednesday night.
