Tribute to the "Greatest Supporters in Football"

Rynaghs Biffo · Post by **Rynaghs Biffo** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:19 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hES9I31 ... ed&search=

Is there anyone like myself getting sick of hearing the same auld shite that the Dubs are the one of the greatest supporting teams in the GAA. Well try out the link above and have a look at some other videos that that dublin supporter has.

OK, they get a great turnout and the place is a sea of blue, but it does help when you count for a certain majority of the population.

At the Leinster Final, did anyone see the offaly fan being carted away on the golf buggy stretcher thingy before half time, after they got a banger through at them. Its this sort of crap that is never shown on TV and made known to the nation and put shame on them. All we hear is the Hill being the 16th or 17th man for Dublin. To be honest, I don't think their crowd add points to their score, its more like the reduce scores from the opposition!

And we all know what happened with about 45 seconds to go at the Leinster Final!

Its almost like they're bringing in a brand of hooliganism into the game. A lot of these boyos are lads just after strolling in from Drumcondra and the like, not part of any GAA club, and cheering on whatever team are in blue! Its nonsense.

Its not fair on the average GAA supporter, who want to see a good decent game of football without the fear of themselves or their children getting hurt up at croke park. It nearly goes as far to say I feel sorry for the Dublin team.

So is there anything that can be done to get rid of this tuggery from Hill 16? Apart from knocking out Dublin in the first round!

Lone Shark · Post by **Lone Shark** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:40 pm

To be fair to our urban counterparts, they just have more of everything. They have 7,000 at a league game in winter, we have 1,000. We have 10,000 at a Leinster final, they have 70,000.

However the problem is not that their worst supporters are any different to our worst - they just have no restraints. If you're an Offaly fan on Hill 16, you're sharing the Hill with other supporters. To most of us that's a good thing, but to the potential bottle thrower it keeps him in check because he's not insulated by the sea of support. If an Offaly fan gets hit by a missile from some Dublin thug, there isn't an Offaly supporter in with him to potentially make him suffer some consequences. Because there are so many, all on the one side, it's a safer course of action to just not police it seeing as there's no-one for them to fight with.

Also, the rest of us are used to mixed crowds. You could be a Dublin supporter for the championship and never stand within 50 yards of an opposition supporter - that's not good for anyone, it doesn't create the same kind of supporter.

All that's needed is to split the Hill, give a section to the opposition, and make sure drink is not brought in. After a while you'll find they'll be the same as any others.

the bare biffo · Post by **the bare biffo** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:58 am

Lads, the truth is this bunch of Buds are pure angels compared to what has gone before them. Anyone who remembers Heffo's Army in the 70's will be well aware of the trail of havoc left behind all round Leinster.
Them times it was normal for Dublin to play Leinster championship games at the provincial grounds. They wrecked trains and terrorised locals everywhere they went. In Tullamore there was a local woman dragged around by the hair for daring to stand up to them. It was a result of all this that Dublin got confined to Croke Park until the last couple of years.

The media portraya of the Buds is indeed a pain in the arse, but since when has selling copy had anything to do with telling the truth.

arbarg · Post by **arbarg** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:32 am

they are a shower of dirty scumbags!!

nuff said.

Allez les faithful!!

Rynaghs Biffo · Post by **Rynaghs Biffo** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:58 am

Lone Shark wrote:All that's needed is to split the Hill, give a section to the opposition, and make sure drink is not brought in. After a while you'll find they'll be the same as any others.

Realistically, would this happen. And if it did, I don't think it would last too long, you can imagine what can thrown from one section to the other.

As a matter of interest, if Dubland were to get to an All-Ireland final, would the Hill be divided?

Lone Shark · Post by **Lone Shark** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:58 pm

I should have added in that the Hill should be split, drink banned, and it should be properly stewarded with lads regularly ejected, certainly for stuff like that. I do honestly believe the Dubs are no different than anyone else, and if you subjected them to the same rules as the rest of us, the scumbags would filter away pretty quickly and go back to watching Man U in the pub.

If the Dubs get to an All Ireland final, then no it won't be split. It should be, but it won't.

Rynaghs Biffo · Post by **Rynaghs Biffo** » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:54 pm

DELIGHTED!

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:09 am

Fair Fucks to Mayo for headin to the hill end 1st. The dubs don't own Croker, and d sooner they understand that the better. From the moment Pillar hit the Mayo selectors a sholder at the start i knew Dublin were rattled, and felt dat Dublin disgraces themselves, with pillar gettin involved physicaly. Whelan should have got the line for his challenge on Mcgarrity. Disgraceful. I'm delighted 4 mayo, not because i'm a fan of mayo, but they taught the Dubs a lesson, both on the field and before provin that Croke park is everyones. Fair play to them. Good luck to Mayo in the final. 1951 is a long lime ago...

DD · Post by DD » Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:08 am

Great, great result - fair balls to Mayo all round, especially the warm up in front of the hill. It was a very clever ploy which on the evidence of last nights Sunday Game was instigated by the players without Micky Moran's knowledge.
They played some brilliant football too and it would be nice to see them reach their Holy Grail against Kerry.
But most importantly of all it brings to an end the Dubs run (again) and the glory hunters that never seen the inside of Croke Park pre new hogan stand era can disappear until next year.
Jasus if they keep getting beaten like this they might not come back at all.

the bare biffo · Post by **the bare biffo** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:39 am

For feck sake lads, I wouldn't mind if Offaly were gettin to q final / s final stage year after year. I think we need to differentiate between the players and a lot of the genuine fans as against the media parasites and the band wagon jumpers. Dublin could just as easily have won yesterday and having a go at Caffrey doesn't do anyone any credit given his family bereavement last week. As he alluded to in the aftermatch interview, sometimes football needs to be put in proper context.

DD · Post by DD » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:12 am

the bare biffo wrote:For feck sake lads, I wouldn't mind if Offaly were gettin to q final / s final stage year after year. I think we need to differentiate between the players and a lot of the genuine fans as against the media parasites and the band wagon jumpers. Dublin could just as easily have won yesterday and having a go at Caffrey doesn't do anyone any credit given his family bereavement last week. As he alluded to in the aftermatch interview, sometimes football needs to be put in proper context.

Who had a go at Caffrey?

naasmanxrhode · Post by **naasmanxrhode** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:19 am

Caffrey was a joke yesterday, why did he do what he did at the start. He was totally rattled and some of his substitutions did not make sense. Well done MAYO

Rynaghs Biffo · Post by **Rynaghs Biffo** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:36 am

Tis great to see Mayo win yesterday, the whole country was behind them. Dublin were rattled from the throw in which is the only way you can silence the crowd. Was talking to someone that was at that match, saying the Dubs were noticeabely silent throughout the match.

I wonder if the pre match warm up fiasco had anything to do with it. I don't blame Mayo for what they did, I blame Dublin. So what if Mayo decide to go towards the Hill, they were the first team out, they have first choice. The Dubs don't own Croke Park, and the fact that the Dublin team marched down to the same end, shows their cockyness and how they try and claim "home" advantage.

The fact is, Dublin's home ground and HQ is at Parnell Park, as Offaly has O'Connor Park, Westmeath have Cusack Park and so on. Croke Park belongs to the National GAA, end of story.

Lone Shark · Post by **Lone Shark** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:50 pm

I went into that match more or less neutral, although I would have a lot of sympathy for Mayo by nature. In saying that, I thought recent bereavement is fair enough but Pillar's shoulder charging of Moran was needless to say the least and fairly classless to go along with it.

That put me on Mayo's side, and I was all the more so after Whelan taking McGarrity out of the game. For the first time this year he was second best in his personal duel, and his response to that says all you need to know about the man. The fact that Dublin started to lord midfield after McGarrity's departure had me dreading that Whelan's act was going to be the winning of the game. I could have handled Dublin winning by playing better football - Dublin winning by thuggery would have upset me.

So thankfully Mayo put in one of the best performances I've ever seen from any team anywhere to win out. It was a privilege to witness.

As for the Hill 16 shenanigans, I'm not sure I agree with it. It's been tried before and to my knowledge this is the first time it's worked out in that team's favour. It's certainly a pity that we ended up with an injury out of it, the Nutritionist girl from Mayo. I've no doubt that the ball that hit her was designed to hit a player instead, but even so it wouldn't endear me to the Dubs any more either.