Offaly Senior Footballers 2024

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Superhans75
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Re: Offaly Senior Footballers 2024

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Please go Kelly enough bullshit
I have followed this county for 40 yetssy



I'm. 48 this year
Limerick has an awful goalkeeper
But we couldn't havre a shot on goal
In 3 games

joey1001
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FerbaneInsider wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 4:44 pm Well Joey, what excuses have you for us today?

Absolutely abysmal stuff, the manager has clearly lost the dressing room.

The sooner we put him out of his misery the better.
In that case then every manager has lost the dressing room for the past 20 years.. let's just sack the manager who won an all ireland, sure he only deserves a year. Because every offaly team has really embraced the second chance for the last 20 years.. the problem is deeper than that and its not a footballing or ability issue!

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G91 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 4:45 pm Don't respond to joey1001 that's bullying
Calling me a liar, fool, telling me to shut up, calling me a fan girl etc etc because you don't like my opinion is bullying responding and debating with others on the forum is OK.

private joker
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Unless there are good vibes coming from the camp despite the defeats he probably has to go. Results are Results, but if there discontent and there seems to be, and there's seems to be a break within this particular group , he's cooked.

Behindthegoal
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Re: Offaly Senior Footballers 2024

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Declan Kelly has to go it’s as simple as that. There is no argument for keeping him.

3 wins from 12 games (including a hammering from down on the way)

A Tailteann cup group where 3 teams qualify and we’ve managed to be knocked out after 2 rounds.. that’s nearly hard to do if you tried.

-22 score difference after playing London who won 1 game in division 4 this year and Limerick who were relegated from division 3.

He done well at club and underage but senior county is a different kettle of fish as he has found out. Thanks for the effort but if we are in any way ambitious the search for a new management team starts now

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Superhans75 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 4:46 pm Please go Kelly enough bullshit
I have followed this county for 40 yetssy



I'm. 48 this year
Limerick has an awful goalkeeper
But we couldn't havre a shot on goal
In 3 games
Yea kelly is the problem alright, that all ireland was a fluke and the players turned on him and won it themselves .. eaten bread soon forgotten, we're puttin up statues of a limerick man after winning a leinster semi final and throwing one of our own on the scrap heap one season in. no offaly team has embraced the second chance in 20 odd years so it's clearly not the manager that's the problem, it's much deeper than that.

FerbaneInsider
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Re: Offaly Senior Footballers 2024

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joey1001 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 5:05 pm
Superhans75 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 4:46 pm Please go Kelly enough bullshit
I have followed this county for 40 yetssy



I'm. 48 this year
Limerick has an awful goalkeeper
But we couldn't havre a shot on goal
In 3 games
Yea kelly is the problem alright, that all ireland was a fluke and the players turned on him and won it themselves .. eaten bread soon forgotten, we're puttin up statues of a limerick man after winning a leinster semi final and throwing one of our own on the scrap heap one season in. no offaly team has embraced the second chance in 20 odd years so it's clearly not the manager that's the problem, it's much deeper than that.
Would you stop with the shite.

John Maughan led a hobbled team to the Tailteann cup semis 2 years ago.

private joker
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Your putting too much value on u20 grade. There are managers who have won multiple under age all ireland titles and have failed at senior.

FerbaneInsider
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For context, Limerick had lost 11 games in a row before today.

London hadn’t won a championship game in 11 years.

Kelly is breaking records alright… just not the ones we want.

joey1001
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FerbaneInsider wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 5:11 pm
joey1001 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 5:05 pm
Superhans75 wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 4:46 pm Please go Kelly enough bullshit
I have followed this county for 40 yetssy



I'm. 48 this year
Limerick has an awful goalkeeper
But we couldn't havre a shot on goal
In 3 games
Yea kelly is the problem alright, that all ireland was a fluke and the players turned on him and won it themselves .. eaten bread soon forgotten, we're puttin up statues of a limerick man after winning a leinster semi final and throwing one of our own on the scrap heap one season in. no offaly team has embraced the second chance in 20 odd years so it's clearly not the manager that's the problem, it's much deeper than that.
Would you stop with the shite.

John Maughan led a hobbled team to the Tailteann cup semis 2 years ago.
So 1 manager then in 20 years. Again an opinion! Whats with the aggressive response?

joey1001
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private joker wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 5:13 pm Your putting too much value on u20 grade. There are managers who have won multiple under age all ireland titles and have failed at senior.
I think other would disagree with how I value u20 compared to senior lol.. not being smart but tell that to the 10k that will turn out next Wednesday for u20 final versus the couple hundred today and the small crowd that will turn up again tomorrow.

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It pains me to say it but, is this a new low? The Tailteann Cup was designed for likes of Offaly to be competitive in a meaningful championship. We lose to London by 12pts and follow up with an 8 point loss to Limerick, who are both Div 4 teams. Its as bad as I've seen it and performances seem to have suddenly fallen off a cliff from somewhat competitive and adequate league performances. There is clearly something not right in the camp!

If this was Stephen Wallaces watch, Kevin Corrigan would be calling for management to resign. Are there different levels of acceptability for 'Our own man', than there were for previous managers? It hasn't worked out as we had hoped. It appears the management have lost the players for whatever reason.

The soundings have not been good since before Christmas which to be honest, was both surprising and disappointing to me. These recent results dont undo the good work Kelly did with the u20s and he should always get credit for that success.

Down to come next week. I really feel for the players having to go in and face preparation for that when they are already out of championship.

We have young team generally and are a work in progress but that doesn't explain these performances which simply, are unacceptable.

Another worrying thing is that our county minor footballers were hammered by 10 pts by Waterford in the THIRD tier All Ireland championship. This is supposed to be a strong group from what ive been told from people operating within the system, and is one of the first teams to come through the recent overhaul of the Offaly GAA Dev System. It has been discussed in other threads, but there is something clearly amiss here too.....

I'm not one of these doomsday naysayers who is here to say I told you so and it gives me no joy really. I only wish it could have been different but it is what it is. Change needed on many fronts.
jimbob

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You said something about the manager winning all ireland as a reason for him to stay on, coupled with him been an inside appointment. I feel he is either out of his depth or his man mgt style to too "my way or the highway "

On the development squads, I have fairly strong thoughts on them but it be a waste of time. They are good and bad in equal measure.

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Re: Offaly Senior Footballers 2024

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i feel we have been getting rid of managers too fast over the last 20 years since paul o kelly really. are we too expectant of mangers? you cant be blaming managers for player non performance. our u20s dont seem to be progressing as we had hoped for .a lot due to injury and many due to physicality. im sure niall macnamee would be top class no matter how incompetent a manger was over him? if the players are not there its hard to expect a manager to wave a migic wand.

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Re: Offaly Senior Footballers 2024

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No the players are not there to compete in Sam Maguire at moment, but they are there to compete at Tailteann Cup level. Recent league results tell us we should be consistently in top 5 or 6 teams in Tailteann Cup and it is the managers job to ensure that we are maxing on our potential. It is safe to say this has not happened with 8 and 14 pt losses to two Div 4 teams.

Fair enough, the players may have not turned up, but the management has the job of getting the team to get the most from their abilities. If this isnt happening, then the questions come up. There is clearly something up within the group.

If the players want Kelly to be kept on because they are happy they are making progress, then the co board should consider keeping him on. If the opposite is the case, and the relationship is irretrievable, then the best thing to do for all concerned is to just move on.
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