Weekend fixtures results?

Muck Savage · Post by **Muck Savage** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:58 pm

What happens if Ferbane and Clara loose the next game, all 4 teams will be on the same points. They'll hardly allow a team to go to the semi-final for scoring more and another team go to the relegation playoff. I can't see any team being knocked out on scores, surely.

Lone Shark · Post by **Lone Shark** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:18 pm

I can't imagine it myself. Still, if it's there in the rules, that's the way it is.

I could see it leading to serious ill will down the line. Say for example Clara and Ferbane both get wins, but for argument's sake Clara eases off the gas against Rynaghs and wins by two while Ferbane kick on and beat Tubber by eight, pushing the whole way to the line. i can't see Tubber taking either Clara's or Ferbane's actions two well. What if time is up and Ferbane are up by five and get a penalty? Do you go for goal or not? I'm aware that this is all highly hypothetical, but even so.

I understand it was voted in but even so it strikes me as very odd. Hopefully it won't come to that.

The Magpie · Post by **The Magpie** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:18 pm

I can't see something like that developing.

Lets hope the County board fix both games for the same time. If that happens, all four teams will be giving it everything for the whole game, knowing that an extra point scored or conceded could well decide their campaign.

I remember commenting that all four teams in this group would feel like they had a chance of progressing when the groups were drawn. That they all still have a chance of doing so with one game remaining at least keeps the interest (stress!) levels high.

If the points difference thing stands, the permutations are considerable. I'll consider some here:

Clara Lose (by up to 3 points)
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Clara could lose by 3 points and still qualify. They could qualify (or at least make a play-off) if one of the following happens:

a) Ferbane beat Tubber
b) Ferbane and Tubber draw
c) Tubber beat Ferbane by one point, Rynaghs beat Clara by one point. Play-off time with Tubber.

Clara Lose (by 4 points or more)
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If Clara lose by 4 points or more, they will not qualify. The following could happen:

a) If Tubber beat Ferbane by more than 9 points, Clara finish third and Ferbane will be bottom of the group. Tubber and Rynaghs qualify (in that order).
b) If Tubber beat Ferbane by 9 points exactly and Clara have lost by 4 points, there will be a play-off between Clara and Ferbane for 3rd and 4th place. Tubber and Rynaghs qualify.
c) If Tubber beat Ferbane by less than 9 points, Clara will finish bottom of the group. If it's exactly 8 points and Ryanghs have won by exactly 4 points (stay with me), Ferbane and Rynaghs will play-off for second place in the group. Tubber would top the group.
d) If Ferbane beat or draw with Tubber, Tubber will be bottom of the group. Ferbane and Rynaghs qualify.

Clara Draw
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If Clara draw, they will qualify. The following could happen:

a) Ferbane and Tubber draw. St. Rynaghs go into the relegation play-offs. Ferbane top the group and Clara are second.
b) Ferbane beat Tubber. Tubber go into the relegation play-offs. Ferbane top the group and Clara are second.
c) Tubber beat Ferbane. They must win by 4 points or more to qualify. Otherwise Clara and Ferbane qualify in that order.

Clara Win
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Fingers crossed. If Clara win they will qualify, but again the margin will be important in determining who wins the group and potentially who heads for the relegation play-off. The following could happen:

a) If Ferbane beat Tubber, Clara must beat St. Rynaghs by a margin which is 6 points greater (than Ferbane's) or more. Rynaghs would head for the door, Clara top the group with Ferbane and Tubber next in that order.
b) If Ferbane beat Tubber and Clara beat Rynaghs by their margin plus 5 there will be a play-off to see who tops the group. Relegation is as you were.
c) If both Clara and Ferbane win and Clara fail to add 5 or more on top of Ferbane's margin, Ferbane top the group with Clara second. Rynaghs would be relying on a narrow defeat to Clara (lets say one point) and a fairly heavy defeat for Tubber (7 points) to survive. It's possible, based on scoring that either Tubber or Rynaghs could go or even have to play-off to see who heads for the door.
d) Ferbane and Tubber draw. Clara top the group with Ferbane second and Tubber third.
e) Tubber beat Ferbane. If they fail to beat Ferbane by 4 points or more, Ferbane will qualify at Tubbers expense. A four point or more victory for Tubber could see them top the group or secure second place. If it's 4 points or better, but still only 2 points greater than Clara's winning margin, there would be a play-off to see who tops the group. Yee can figure out the rest yourselves!

There could well be some mistakes in there - it was a quick draft. At least I've given our resident numbers man something to do for the afternoon

Lone Shark · Post by **Lone Shark** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:40 pm

Wouldn't be much logic to duplicating all that fine effort!!!!

Still though, even if they get fixed for the same time, one match will have the second half starting a bit later than the other, you'll have phones going over and back..... it's just not really in the spirit of the game, so to speak.

I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see calls for a playoff if anything othar than 1st vs 2nd is at stake.

The Magpie · Post by **The Magpie** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:08 pm

Agreed. I think if all four teams finished on three points it would be rough justice for one to potentially head for a County Semi-Final while another enters the relegation play-off.